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[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 66 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I want others to return their carts so I expect the same from myself. Unironically, we live in a society, so that means cooperation for things to run smoothly

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

This is Contractualism. If anyone wants to learn more about this moral philosophy, you can read Scanlon's What We Owe to Each Other, or for a better time, watch The Good Place.

[-] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

More generally, this is the philosophy of deontology, or the study of duty/obligations if anyone is interested in seeing the whole eco system

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[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

BUt It’s soMEONe’s joB tO GeT tHE CARts, i’M jUST CReATING jObS For tHEm

[-] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 6 months ago

The cart corral things were invented in my lifetime, before that we were expected to walk that shit all the way back into the store.

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[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

You gain nothing, but you retain self-respect.

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[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 29 points 6 months ago

You gain the knowledge that you didn’t make a retail worker’s day even shittier.

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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 28 points 6 months ago

Return the cart and make sure they're all nested with each other so the cart guy has an easier job

[-] Mamertine@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Return the cart and make sure they're all nested with each other ~~so the cart guy has an easier job~~ because it's satisfying.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

This maybe pick up a stray cart on the way too.

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[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Wasn’t this a 4chan post about the cart being the ultimate litmus test for people in society?

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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 20 points 6 months ago

People complain about capitalism but there is never a loose cart in the aldi parking lot.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 months ago

Yes, because that’s where they go.

[-] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 months ago

Justify not putting the cart back without the root reason being that you're selfish (too lazy, in a hurry, not my job, cart return is too far away, etc). Go ahead, I'll wait.

[-] EndHD@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

i got hit by a car while trying to return the cart and the medics forced me to go to the hospital despite my dying wish being for someone to return the cart

[-] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

The cart is probably either damaged, or has your blood all over it, or both, so it's in no condition to be used right now anyways. Thank you for at least trying to return it, I'll spread the word about your GoFundMe (for either your bills or funeral).

[-] EndHD@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

don't worry about me. just get the fund set up for the replacement cart. that's all that matters

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[-] snooggums@kbin.social 16 points 6 months ago

You do gain something though. By not contributing to the problem the overall likelihood that other people also don't contribute increases because they see a cart put away instead of a herd of them roaming the parking lot. Same as being polite when you aren't required to be.

Society exists because most people choose not to be assholes.

[-] LemurEyes@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

"Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law." The categorical imperative, Immanuel Kant

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Oh yeah smart guy? Then is it still a categorical imperative if returning the cart will somehow result in greater harm than good, say if the employees are paid based on the number of carts they retrieve from improper positions? If not, then what use are maxims if they cannot take into account the specifics of a situation? Are they just a matter of logical coherence, or can they be used for actual decision-making?

ANSWER THE QUESTION

[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Always. While everyone tries to park close to the entrance, I park close to the stall. I park in the same spot at my grocery store 90% of the time.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

I don't "gain nothing" from returning the cart! It feels good to do the right thing!

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[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

I put the cart in the back of a random truck.

[-] BadNewsNobody@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

If they're parked like an asshole taking up more than one space then I'd say it's justified.

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 12 points 6 months ago

I get my 50 euro cents back

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[-] anonymouse@lemmings.world 11 points 6 months ago

This, but for people who block traffic stopping on the curb instead of pulling into a parking space so they won't have to walk a whole extra 50 steps.

[-] clearleaf@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The shopping cart thing is no longer a good test of character. The whole idea is there's no reward for doing it and no punishment for not doing it. Now that everyone knows that there's a large contingent of the population who could be judging them for their actions, it's not the same thing anymore. It's more like a test of how a panopticon situation effects people.

[-] constant_liability@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

You just explained how society works.

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Id like to run a test where we silently observe cart return behaviour on hidden camera, and compare return rates with when we station people outside the shops to stare at cart users who are loading their shopping into their cars

Tldr funny cart moment from a guy who didn't realize I could see him until too late

I was once chilling in the car for a second after putting groceries away when the guy adjecent to me finished unloading, pushed the cart about 2ft away, made eye contact with me, then proceeded to act like he was stretching and not stepping back toward his car. It was a comical amount of time between the stepping away, eye contact pause, awkward stretch and grab the cart again

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[-] butt_mountain_69420@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

I do it every time because I'm not one of those bad words you can say on other websites.

[-] olutukko@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Here in finland you have to insert a coin in there. It gets released when you chain the shopping cart back to another shopping cart or the roof thingy where they go. Works like a charm. Very few loose carts

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I return it, and also try to make sure there's space, by nesting it, and the few in front of it.

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[-] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago
[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Do you move out of the dual-purpose right-hand turning lane when you know you're going straight before a red light?

I do! Well, when I know I'll have time to get back over before my turn.

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[-] tophneal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago
[-] calypsopub@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

This is really all I would need to know about a potential date.

[-] Nikki@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

i gain getting to go fast on the cart for a few seconds and hopping up on it so jokes on you

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