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Surprising that any nation’s currency would be magnetic. Coins are usually made of brass, zinc, copper, silver, etc.
Steel is cheap. Copper, zinc, nickel, brass and especially silver are rather expensive.
Many world coins up to about 10-50c are steel plated copper or similar.
Most of the world considers it unacceptable to have a coin that costs more to manufacture than it is worth, let alone have just the raw materials cost that much. Smaller coins have often been simply removed.
In the US, on the other hand, apparently the zinc industry is able to force the continued expensive existence of the penny.
The issue with the penny is that they have a powerful lobby. Not many people care enough about them to write their representatives about the issue. Let alone even email them.
Not sure what's keeping the $1 bill around though.
Strippers still make bank on dudes slipping a dollar in their g-string.
Dollar coins could make for a lucrative show.
My mom once told me a story.
Back in her college days, which would have been in like.. idk the 70s? She and her catholic college girlfriends would donate blood and go drinking, because the smaller volume of blood made them get drunk faster.
They would then go to the male dancer strip club, and put quarters in the dancers g-strings to see if they could make it fall down.
She never said whether they succeeded or not..
But coins as tips for dancers are banned in clubs now because they are a major falling hazard. Especially for dancers in nosebleed heals with little ground-contacting surface area. You’ll definitely get tossed out of you try it
I no joke had a stripper respond to me saying I’m out of dollars by saying ‘oh it’s ok honey you can make it hail’
She was hilarious
So in Alberta its a common game for the stripper to hold a shot glass or similar in her buttcheeks or in front of her pussy and have people try to get Toonies in the glass (2$ coin, lower values will get you kicked out eventually) winners are rewarded with a fridge magnet or poster with her image.
Single dollar bills are actually useful?
Compare the last time you've used pennies for .57c vs. dollars for $7
Most of the rest of the world moved the roughly $1 to $2 values to coins rather than bills/notes.
Strip clubs.
I've noticed that euro coins rust in pools and ponds. Not green copper oxidize, but red iron rust
It looks like only the 1, 2, and 5c Euro coins contain steel.
Could be. I meant euro as in the currency. Wishing well pools and ponds—wherever people throw coins—end up a rusty mass. It's hard to tell where it's coming from
UK lower value coins (1p, 2p, 5p, 10p) are steel (depending on when they were made) coated in something else.
The higher value coins are not. I assume it's a cost thing.
Which coins are made of silver? That would be mad.
US quarters were prior to 1965
Also US dimes
I'd forgotten that actually but you're right... I'm always on the lookout for the quarters... Maybe now I'll remember to keep an eye out for the dimes, too.
They were worth a fair bit more than quarters these days. Good to know though!
The first year Australia made 50 cent coins they were made of some? Silver. The next year they changed the metal used and shape. Roughly speaking a 1966 50c coin is worth $15 in silver.
Kara was effectively stealing 20% of LRT fares over the 13-year period; one in five coins that were fed into the machines by the paying public ended up in his shaving bag, amounting to around 2 million customer journeys. It seems inconceivable that he wasn’t caught sooner.
This really does seem inconceivable. I'm an industry accountant and worked in the safe room counting drawers for a supermarket and a cafeteria. I lose it when I'm not balanced, even $10 on a 200k deposit. How... How was someone not noticing 20%?? Hell he deserves it with the lack of controls in place. Maybe things were different then...
It's the government, it's not their money. Finding the discrepancy is extra work which is kryptonite to government employees.
Its extra work for any employee, the government just doesnt pretend like it's going to reward you like corporate america pretends it will do.
In both cases you just get more work to do, but the latter has better marketing.
Corporate America rewarding you.....lmao. Yeah. I wish.
This guy bureaucracies
It's written that they did notice it but were unable to pinpoint the problem and thought it is a software bug. Reminds of a recent story where an actual software bug got post workers in the UK jail time and huge fines because they were accused of stealing that money
The Horizon thing? Yeah, that's a massive scandal, absolutely appalling.
For anyone interested, here's just one of the many, many stories about this: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/feb/18/ex-post-office-staff-tell-inquiry-of-stress-of-it-scandal
There is a pretty good tv series that just came out today about it as well. Mr Bates vs. the Post Office. I just started watching it today. Crazy story. Those poor people. They got fucked royally.
This is the City of Edmonton. Having worked there the least surprising part of this story is that even when they noticed, instead of investigating further, they wrote it off as an error.
I work in a firm that does accounting and so far we've been accurate to the cent, every single time.
Imagine if he had just bought a few lame apartments and then washed his money as rent. He might never have been caught.
According to the article, he did. What got attention was when he bought a million dollar house for himself.
His biggest problem was not stopping. He had already banked $2million but kept going. That's like making away with a $2m bank heist and showing back up at the same bank the next day to do it again.
If he had stopped but kept working for several years, he would have never been caught because audits would have lined up while he was still there.
‘There are about 600,000 people living in the city. You have stolen from every citizen, man, woman and child approximately $4 each.’ Associate Chief Justice, A.H. Wachowich commented ahead of passing down the sentence.
Oh no, not four dollars each
That's does the math approximately billions of dollars less than corporations take from us every day.
Kara was effectively stealing 20% of LRT fares over the 13-year period; one in five coins that were fed into the machines by the paying public ended up in his shaving bag, amounting to around 2 million customer journeys. It seems inconceivable that he wasn’t caught sooner.
That 20% seems off. Wouldn't that mean the expected income from that thirteen years would only be 10-15 million?
Maybe 20% of fares from machines? Or machines in one station? Or maybe most people didn't use machines?
Most regular transit users have passes
17.66$ per hour in 1983 is equal to 50$ per hour today which is just a fine salary?
Good question.
a capitalist hero
let's get this guy working on the climate problem down at NASA.. give him a set of titanium tools and a couple of supercomputers and just see what he comes up with.. outside the box thinking, that's what we need in here..
Having worked for the city of Edmonton I can tell you the fact that no one realized what was happening and wrote it off as an accounting error is just so....expected. That someone might be stealing from the city is even more expected.
Ehhh. Let him keep it. Honestly, he had the patience to do it and nobody clued in for so long that in this case, he won.
That was a great read! Gotta admit, I’m impressed he was able to continue the scam so long.
You see, I was picturing something far more mundane with the headline of "stole" coins. I figured it'd be a story about somebody picking up loose change and some jackass claiming that was stealing. After reading through it I still feel for the guy but yeah, that's definitely a crime.
Me taking a coin out of my pocket and looking at both sides
He’s right!
I say good on him.