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I imagine certain features like Google Maps' different busyness indicators might be missing because otherwise that would require telemetry?

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[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

openstreetmaps.org ecosystem

for navigation I use Organic Maps: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/app.organicmaps/

I like OsmAnd too, but it's too much for most of my use cases. I still use it for recording trips.

[–] LightDelaBlue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use OsmAnd~ it's very nice ,and open source . Oh and if you use the F-droid version you got the pro feature .

[–] helmet91@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OsmAnd is awesome, I use it especially for cycling. It has an awesome cycling/hiking route planner, and even the smallest forest paths are on the map!

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[–] GutterPunch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Open Street Maps. It has some gaps or missed addresses/neighborhoods/roads because it is built on contributions of volunteers.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I like OsmAnd as a client for using open street maps. I hadn't heard of organic maps though which someone else mentioned- I'll have to give it a try!

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Organic Maps on my degoogled pixel. Does not have quite as much data as google maps, but works really well for navigation and uses openstreetmaps' data.

[–] BA834024112@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm curious, what are some steps I can take to degoogle my phone? Obviously using non Google apps when possible (browser, email client, etc...)

What worked for you?

[–] lemonuri@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.

If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.

Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net

More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Even lineage OS isn't available for my motorola g73, so I just removed all google apps, including google play services, via adb

[–] lemonuri@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.

If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.

Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net

More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns

[–] BA834024112@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Solid! Thank you

[–] nbdy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

there is grapheneos for pixel and some other devices

[–] lemonuri@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.

If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.

Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net

More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns

[–] lemonuri@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.

If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.

Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net

More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns

[–] lemonuri@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.

If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.

Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net

More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns

You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.

If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.

Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net

More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I use GrapheneOS without Google play services. All apps I use are either from fdroid or the aurora store. You could also install lineageOS or eOS, Graphene only runs on Pixels.

[–] scrchngwsl@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For walking nothing beats OpenStreetMap. Absolutely destroys Google maps as it knows all the footpaths and what is and isn't walkable.

For driving I'm stuck with Google due to Android Auto.

For finding businesses etc Here is the best alternative but frankly Google is in a different league in this regard, nothing beats it.

[–] Faebe2222@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you want a good alternative for driving try out Magic Earth! Also uses openstreetmaps and has some Waze like features to report stuff

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[–] pumpsnabben@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/

It's the only one I know, I've also done mapping for them and updating several places around my home town.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

I like Organic Maps. It uses the openstreetmap data.

[–] New_account@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Open Street Map is legitimate. In bicycling communities, Strava is the gold standard app for tracking rides, and it uses Open Street Maps on the backend. It's always super accurate for me, even for fairly obscure bike trails off the beaten path.

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[–] pluja@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Try OrganicMaps (https://organicmaps.app) on Android. It's awesome!

[–] TheYang@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

it's nice, but its navigation/route finding can be pretty atrocious

Can you use this with Android Auto?

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[–] nicola@lemmy.nzambello.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] toffi@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Currently on vacation and switched to organic maps for the trip. Some stuff is awesome and some is kinda counter intuitive. Try to stick with it for now and see if I get used to it.

[–] ScaNtuRd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I use Open Street Maps. There are multiple clients available, but the one I use is called OSMAnd+. It pretty much works just as well as Google Maps in my experience.

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Almost all alternatives use OpenStreetMaps. I prefer Magic Earth but all of them are similar enough

The main issue is OSM. They lack many addresses (varies A LOT among different countries, some are fine) and POIs. Please consider contributing yourself, because it depends only on volunteers!

It is SUPER easy. Just download StreetComplete on Android to add multiple different info in a very easy way (or just house numbers which are the most important info) and EveryDoor for POI editing/deletion/addition in just a few clicks. And don't worry if you don't input something because you aren't sure as long as what you enter is correct

[–] Laice@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

interestingly in my region in germany osm is more reliable in regards of house numbers then google is

[–] Damage@feddit.it 6 points 1 year ago

in some areas osm is insanely detailed, with trash cans, flower pots, and all kind of stuff. Nerds fucking rock.

[–] WillyWonksters@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Some basic information, including building numbers, can also be edited from within Organic Maps.

[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Osmand with some of these custom maps that add address data to the normal maps. It works amazingly and is also entirely offline.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why isn't that address data included in OpenStreetMaps and/or OSMAnd by default?

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[–] Clocker108@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I live in south korea, and unfortunately, openstreetmap isn't enough for daily usage on here. So I am using both. Google Maps(using GMaps WV) and organic maps

[–] notenoughbutter@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

magic earth for regular use and herewego if openstreetmap doesn't have data and I'm in a hurry

both are proprietary but way better than google

I also input data in openstreetmap if it doesn't have it from gmaps webview(by divestos) so I can use it in future without relying on proprietary services

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