Definitely gross and unexcusable behavior. But, it's funny how the BBC final coverage of the world cup is about the Spain's controversies and how great the England team is. Nobody likes a sore loser. Lol

Que viva España y sus campeonas! 🇪🇸

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

He's got a vice grip on her head wtf

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I didn’t like it

And then…

In comments later released by the Spanish football federation Hermoso - Spain's all-time leading scorer - said the moment was a "natural gesture of affection". "It was a totally spontaneous mutual gesture because of the immense joy that winning a World Cup brings," the 31-year-old forward added.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Or she's being pressured to say it's okay to kill the controversy.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

That’s probable.

[–] mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Or this also might be hard to believe but she could actually be fully grown and capable of having her own agency

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, might. It's good good to question it even if that's the case. Maybe next time someone will think twice about doing something similar if it's not consensual.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

You realize adults can be pressured to say and do things they don't want to do...right?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very tough, there's an obvious power dynamic.

[–] mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get the sentiment but fuck.. every time I see this type of comment it makes it seem as though women are meek powerless individuals it’s like backhanded feminism

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point is the gender doesn't matter at all. The power dynamic is the core of the problem

[–] mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay fair enough, but stating it like that means that it’s impossible for anyone to fight against that? So once again people have no agency?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh? Laws are created all the time to protect against this issue but the topic clearly isn't fully solved

[–] mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I get it’s still a problem I agree, my point is it shouldn’t always just be assumed this is the case that a person has no ability to fend off anyone with a larger power dynamic

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Well that's kind of what the original person said and I gave another option. You don't know. I don't know. But saying they're banging because she changed what she said isnt fair either.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think either of you know how powerful a moment of elation like that can be. I think she gets it because she was there, living it too. Context, as always, is everything.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

We're both talking about the fact that she changed her messaging about what happened, not the original action.

[–] korax@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just for context, it has been revealed that the alleged statement of "natural gesture of affection, etc" is false and forged.

It was released by the Federation, but she never said that.

She has only said that she did not liked it and won't make any more statements at the moment.

Hermoso was pressured too in the trip back home to appear on the "apology" video from the president (spoiler: he does not really apologize and before that he insulted everybody that did not like the kiss on the radio) but she refused.

The coach tried to persuade the family in the plane too, three times. They did not cave.

Source in Spanish: https://www.relevo.com/futbol/mundial-femenino/rubiales-pidio-jenni-hermoso-defendiera-20230822035508-nt.html

[–] Cabeza2000@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Without relation to what Hermoso (or the RFEF PR team) says, it was not appropriate. Even if they are friends, Rubiales is there as La Liga president, not as a friend.

What would have been the public reaction if Infantino would have kissed Hermoso?

What would have been the public reaction if Rubiales would have kissed Queen Letizia?

This guy is a shame to Spanish soccer, I am surprised the backslash is mainly in social media and the mainstream media is just banking with clickbait low level articles. A shame.

[–] torres@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's probably just a curated statement to make him not look like a piece of shit

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s a quote from the one who GOT kissed

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if they are, it's an extremely unprofessional move on his part at the very least.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I agree with that. “I was really excited” isn’t a reason to invade anyone’s space.