Reminder that Microsoft is trying to shift Windows to be entirely cloud based, so this can easily happen overnight without your consent. You don't own your OS. Linux is the only way, unless you're one of those strange BSD folks.

[–] stankmut@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They aren't trying to move to be completely cloud based. That was a bad headline that misconstrued what they were actually doing. The article actually just talked about how they wanted Windows to be fully streamable from the cloud as an option.

[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's exactly how Office365/Microsoft365 got it's start. Now, instead of buying a copy of Office, you subscribe to Microsoft365.

I'm assuming that the path from cloud as an option to subscription based OS will be a little faster. To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if the stripped down locally installed version is offered as a Freemium option. Air-gapped and non-online computers usually just do one thing anyways. Most aren't being used to watch movies, buy stuff, etc.

My prediction would be that within 5 years, probably sooner, if you don't subscribe to your cloud-based Microsoft Windows OS, you'll have a bare-bones experience. Good enough for kiosks and such.

Granted, you are correct, the article passed around only talks about how it's an option right now, with some benefits… but we've all seen Microsoft do this exact same play before.

[–] SaltySalamander@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Now, instead of buying a copy of Office, you subscribe to Microsoft365

Naa, I just install Office and autopatch it.

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[–] DuckGuy@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't use Windows.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Surprise https://www.phoronix.com/news/Pluton-TPM-CRB-Merged-Linux-6.3

[–] DuckGuy@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

That is not a good surprise.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Microsoft can't be bothered to make a single, unified control panel but they have resources to work on shit like this.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Not really, this screenshot is fake.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depicted: Why I've been trying to violently cut away Windows' presence in my life.

"Security" features that add no security whatsoever and only exist for DRM reasons

[–] elbowdrop@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Security for me, not for thee. At this point in my life windows is just too exploitative. I know a little about Linux, looks like it's time to learn.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My tipping point was actually how trigger-happy Windows Defender is about crack software and how you literally cannot meaningfully disable it without first breaking apart the entire OS. -- Only do a temporary turn-off that only lasts until the next time the computer is turned on. Or another less temporary turn-off that lasts until the next system update. Which. Fuck off. I can tell a feature that is working against me from how hard it is for me to get rid of it.

I won't be one of those liars who tells you "Linux is eaaaaaaaaasy, you'll get it in no time"

It's a skillset. You'll have to learn stuff. You'll have to browse wikis and ask for help on Discord servers and fucc around a lot. Plus it has this thing that when something works it works really well, and when something doesn't work, boy are you in for a capital-F-fun afternoon.

But it keeps me happy with how much I can customize my experience to my own personality, and how fast and smooth it is, even on my old, beat-up laptops.

Still keep a windows install around for those days when I need some application that doesn't exist on Linux, doesn't have a viable alternative, and won't play ball with Wine/Proton. But those are becoming rarer and rarer. Maybe one day I'll be rich enough to have a computer with several GPUs and I'll virtualize Windows instead of dual-booting it.

[–] _totally_toasted_@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

im telling you the second this gets introduced to windows is the second ill have a linux install USB.

[–] Notorious@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Error

Microsoft Pluton prevented an unauthorized file from opening. You are prohibited from opening this file because it may contain an unauthorized operating system.

File name: ubuntu-22.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso

[–] kevinbacon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You should have one already friend, start with something comfy like mint for a smooth transition.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I switched to pop os recently and I'm never going back to Windows. It's easier now than ever to switch to Linux, even for gamers. Steam, proton, and wine have made running your Windows apps and games in Linux so easy. You'd have to have a very specific use case to justify staying with Windows now.

Here's a fun one: I own two video capture devices, an Elgato HD 60 S and an Avermedia LiveGamer Portable 2. Both do not work in Linux. I found a simple USB HDMI capture device that works in Linux and cost a fraction of what thosmother overhyped ones cost me. It works way better than they ever did. That was one of my last adjustments. I can still stream my Switch and PS5 on Twitch, no problem.

That's a pretty niche use case and it was easy.

[–] peeBox@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Could you tell us exactly which simple USB HDMI capture device you found that works well in Linux?

I've been looking for one myself.

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[–] this_is_router@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

20 years ago it was called TCP/Palladium and everyone was afraid this might happen. That was one of the reasons Microsoft implemented TPM chips.

Obviously everyone forget about it until now. Happy new times where Microsoft can dictate which files your, sorry, their computer is allowed to open.

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Imagine still using Windows after all the shit they've pulled over the years.

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[–] anteaters@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

That's what you get for using windows - software that might allow you to use your computer.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I've never heard of microsoft pluton- that's why I wasnt talking about it

[–] ErKaf@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Must suck to be a Windows User

[–] birdyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Common Microsoft L

[–] cyanarchy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Because Windows is known to be malicious spyware, and you should consider not tolerating it any longer.

[–] SomeOtherUsername@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine using Windows in 2023

[–] FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm primarily a PC gamer and so many games would not be accessible to me if I made the switch to Linux, not to mention quite a few programs I use for my job. I tried to make the switch a few times and was not able to because of this.

[–] ech0@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's all changed. Checkout Protondb

[–] Spendies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

There's still a lot of games that don't work in linux due to antcheat not working. A lot of the big online competitive games don't work.

[–] Mopswasser@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was your typical on-the-fence guy for years, installing Linux a couple of times a year, hopping between distros but eventually always returned to Windows. Those days are over for good. I learned to understand packages, dependencies and the basic tools to be able to understand and execute most troubleshooting. Still on an Apple laptop but once they pull similar shit with their telemetry that’s it.

[–] PastorHaggis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only thing preventing me from hopping back over to Linux is trying to reinstall my games. I've used it on and off for a few years and I loved it, but last time I had some issues with power and thought maybe Linux was doing something wonky (ended up being a PSU issue) and then Halo Infinite dropped and I wanted to play that.

In hindsight, both reasons were bad and I should have stayed on Linux.

[–] Voytrekk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Gaming on Linux has improved massively, especially over the last year. You should give it another try.

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago

I consider using windows as self-harm. It is a decision you make. I choose not to harm myself in this way, so this does not concern me.

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes, Microsoft exerting this sort of control over their operating system does deeply concern me which is why i switched to Linux and you should too

[–] PeutMieuxFaire@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is because of rumors about Windows starting to implement this type of measures that I moved to Ubuntu… That was shortly before Windows Vista came out, back in 2006.
I never went back again, except briefly on an air-gaped machine under 7 to play Skyrim and Grim Dawn.

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[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What distro do you run?

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Ubuntu and more recently Pop!

I used to use a distro named "crunchbang"

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