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[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 82 points 10 months ago (24 children)

Germany knows a thing or two about genocide so it's surprising they're not seeing it in Gaza.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Germany is so ashamed of its history that no Israel atrocity can change that.

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[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

There are still a lot of old people in Germany who refuse to say anything negative about Israel.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They can never, ever take a position against Israel.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Germany takes plenty of positions against Israel. You're confusing us with the US.

[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I think they are calling them weak. I figured it would be but when you put it in comparison we are almost there but not quite to the same level

[–] erranto@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Western countries records of respecting human rights are nothing but performative theater. They are part of the same imperialist empire. of which they all benefit from.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure are painting a lot of people with the one brush there buddy. I've never invaded anyone.

[–] erranto@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you live in a western rich country, than you have definitely benefited directly or indirectly from the imperialist empire, the western coalition has invaded many countries, ousted many governments, installed puppets governments everywhere there interests are at stake, and are keeping the weak developping countries in marching orders, if anyone of them would dare misalign they threaten them with bringing "democracy and freedom" ..

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

My country did none of that so fuck off with your all as bad as each other shite. My history is clean and if I benefit from speaking English or whatever you're going to say I'd consider it a silver lining and not a benefit of imperialism.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are all the citizens responsible for all the actions of their governments?

[–] erranto@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Well if you claim that democracies embody the will of the people, than all the citizens bare responsibility of their governments, except those who actively oppose such policies with political action but are outnumber by the majority.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's exactly because they know a thing or two they're not willing to throw the term around willy-nilly

What's happening in Gaza right now isn't a genocide. It's awful, they are commiting warcrimes, but not a genocide.

Funnily enough, what's happening in the West Bank has better Chances of being classified as a Genocide. Yet all those "Experts" on the Internet never talk about that. They only see civilian houses blowing up, then they take the worst word they know, "genocide", and call it that.

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Do you think Palestinians in Gaza will ever be able to return home, in the near or far future, without being killed under the excuse of "it's an evacuation zone, so they must be Hamas"?

And do you think the "evacuation zone" will ever stop expanding before it encompasses the entirety of Gaza?

Because I'm pretty sure forcefully displacing a people from their home and not allowing them to return qualifies as genocide.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you think Palestinians in Gaza will ever be able to return home, in the near or far future

absolutely. Not in the near, but in the Medium-to-Long-Term (5mo+) they will be able to return to the Strip.

Israel is not interested in a prolongued Conflict. I say Nettanyahus Successor will try to mend things with the Gazans once they weakened Hamas enough.

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I have a few questions:

  1. Where will they return to with the whole strip flat?

  2. When will the "evacuation zone" stop expanding? Because as far as I'm aware more of the strip is in the zone than out of it.

  3. Do you think a power hungry, violent asshole who has stated he will ignore the world court if he doesn't like what they decide is interested in the wellbeing of anyone but himself and his elite friends?

  4. How is it okay to force the most populous region to move further and further south (which was also physically impossible in the time allocated) where there is nowhere for them to stay in the interim, because there might be Hamas among them?

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[–] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

They learned nothing.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

"We're so sorry we killed 6 million Jews we gave them a genocide on credit"

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

... There's a Nazi joke in there somewhere.

[–] Toes@ani.social 8 points 10 months ago

But I'm not seeing it.

[–] dasgoat@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Once again, Germany looks away from a clear and blatant genocide. It's almost like they're known for that or something.

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[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] erranto@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Never stopped sucking Zionist balls since the end of WWII.

Thank skies I haven't considered Germany as a destination country.

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[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

A Stop the genocide in Gaza graffiti was sprayed onto my university a few days ago (Germany I should mention). Uni tried to cover it up but it's currently on display at the busiest part of the campus and I predict it will stay there for a while

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Spineless cucks should have abstained.

Fuck Hamas, but what is happening in Gaza is absolutely genocide. Trying to diplomatically meander around that is fucking pathetic.

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