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Time to stop using Chrome (arstechnica.com)

submitted 1 year ago by Owl@hexbear.net to c/technology@hexbear.net

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Google is now rolling out a system where Chrome directly tracks your activity and shares its summary with advertisers.

Also Firefox is faster as of like two months ago.

It takes five minutes to switch browsers, and the difference is so little that you'll often forget you did it.

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[–] raven@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Using chromium, ungoogled chromium, brave (reactionary baggage), vivaldi, opera, etc is not good enough. We must switch to Firefox specifically.

All the Chrome forks I mentioned above use the same chrome rendering engine, called blink. When you use blink you're helping google take over the web. Firefox is already on the shitlist of every major website because they refuse to prevent the user from installing things like adblockers and privacy extensions like Chrome does with manifest v3 and soon with their new Web Environment Integrity system. They cannot wait to throw up a "your browser is no longer supported :(" page for all Firefox users, and when that happens it will be over for our fox friend.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They cannot wait to throw up a "your browser is no longer supported :(" page for all Firefox users, and when that happens it will be over for our fox friend.

Whenever you see a site that does this, or a site that works on Chrome but not Firefox, report it at webcompat.com. Doing that will create an issue in github.com/webcompat/web-bugs.

For sites that are intentionally blocking Firefox users, Mozilla adds interventions or user agent overrides for those specific pages or scripts (go to about:compat in Firefox to see a list of them) to make it work with Firefox, even on sites trying to block Firefox.

[–] raven@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you for mentioning this. Bookmarked.

[–] Clever_Clover@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly, manifest v3 can't come soon enough, the enshitification of chrome would mean more people moving to Firefox, so, I think it would be a good thing to force all chrome users to look at ads, simply to give them a 'real' (since privacy isn't annoying or something you feel with every page you click) reason to switch

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Time to stop using Chrome

astronaut-1

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

The time to stop using Chrome was always

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no more half measures walter

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

Bill Finger

[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Hey Porky, what's the time?

Time to stop using Chrome! porky-scared

[–] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

NOW you think it's time to stop using Chrome? How about a decade ago? Ideally, when a gigantic, publicly owned monopolist makes stuff, you never even start using it.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If a simply migrate tool existed that could preserve everyone's bookmarks, saved passwords, saved banking details, settings, etc and transfer them to firefox or other browsers it would be significantly easier to get people to move.

The biggest blockade I am seeing in getting people to move is not their love of google, it is the stickyness that having all of their shit built up in the browser causes. A simple and easy to migrate method would get people off it.

[–] hotwarioinyourarea@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/switching-chrome-firefox

It's not as bad as you would think.

[–] stardust@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Most of this can be easily imported from Chrome to Firefox. Mozilla has a guide on it and it's pretty easy.

Settings will have to be redone, but I find that usually is pretty quick

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

The best time to stop using chrome was when they announced manifest v3, the second best time is now.

[–] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The time to stop using Chrome was yesterday, but I guess today is the next best

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

haha

[–] Helmic@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am a vim gremlin. I use qutebrowser, which is ultimately chromium-based, because I cannot find any reasonable way to do vim bindings for Firefox. Tridactyl, the most featureful and mature vim binding extension for Firefox, shits out if Firefox hasn't loaded a webpage.

Is there any Firefox fork that is keyboard driven like qutebrowser? I don't see how it could be accomplished without a fork or patchset, as the WebExtension API simply has too many restrictions for a proper input method.

[–] Capricorn@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

I don't use Firefox because it's slow on Android. I use Vivaldi. Not fully Open Source but still good with privacy and actually kind of easy to check thay're not fooling the users. Plus, it has a bunch of features I really like, such as nested tabs, workspaces, and full sync of almost everything

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure if this Chrome thing also applies to mobile, but this is as good time as any to remind people that you can now install uBlock Origin (and many other useful extensions) on the android firefox app.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

People still use chrome?

I stopped using it in 2013 when I realized that it would load all your restored tabs at once, while firefox didn't

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How about Chromium?

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I think that has it too.

Google is telling everyone this feature ("privacy sandbox") is good for them and not Google-specific.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

just use firefox

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

"ungoogled chromium" should have this feature removed (I assume).