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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 72 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (15 children)

Seems like republicans are boxed in. If they block an immigration bill because they want to deny Biden a win their complaining about the border will lose most of it's impact as an issue based on massive hypocrisy. If they pass legislation, it helps Biden. Guess they have to hope for voters short memories. Democrats need a spokesman on republican immigration hypocrisy.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 103 points 9 months ago (17 children)

Since when do Republicans care about hypocrisy? Mitch might be acting as the voice of reason today, but he was the one who refused to let Obama's last SC pick even have a vote, because he knew it would pass, while rushing Trump's last pick through before the election.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

You'll never explain that to a moderate...

Their ideology stopped making sense decades ago, so by now the supporters who are left can't be rational.

If they were, they wouldn't be "moderates". And their identity is wrapped up in that, so they can't. No matter what a Republican or a progressive says should be done, the modern moderate will declare both are bad and the obvious choice is halfway between them.

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[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can't imagine they aren't going to try and send him a bill with some garbage in it.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Senate made an agreement. In order for the House to pass it, they can't change it much. If they do put garbage in it, it'll never get to the President's desk.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If they do put garbage in it, it'll never get to the President's desk.

Maybe

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[–] downhomechunk@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago

Voters, and most Americans at large, have very short attention spans.

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 3 points 9 months ago

They won't vote for the legislation. Trump told them not to. And the base won't blame them or see any hypocrisy, because it's tied to $ for Ukraine. That's their "reason" and the base is in total agreement that the US shouldn't be funding Ukraine.

Never underestimate the power of right-wing propaganda. We have millions of Americans who now think Putin is a glorious world savior fighting against the evil Nazi Ukrainians.

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[–] Diotima@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago (6 children)

With respect, bullshit.

"Closing the border" is a meaningless statement where the southern US border is concerned. More than a thousand miles of border, much of it sparsely inhabited, and he's going to secure it all?

Sure.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So just because we can't solve ALL of a problem doesn't mean we shouldn't solve SOME of the problem?

"No point in going on a diet, I'll still have to eat food."

[–] Diotima@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We can solve a good deal of the issue by enforcing labor laws against exploitative companies and making it easier to immigrate to work. Shameful that Democrats and Republicans are more or less on the same page when it comes to immigration policy.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 9 months ago

Shameful that Democrats and Republicans are more or less on the same page when it comes to immigration policy.

This goes beyond immigration policy. There's large swaths of situations in our country that both major parties agree on. One thing that comes to mind is the bank bailouts. Most citizens were against this, but it was wildly popular in both parties.

Go figure, when you take a group of mostly rich people and stick them together in Congress, they are increasingly out of touch with the average citizen, and at times, even opposed to the interests of the people they are supposedly representing.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“A bipartisan bill would be good for America and help fix our broken immigration system and allow speedy access for those who deserve to be here, and Congress needs to get it done,” Biden said.

He’s loathe to give a win to Biden on an issue that animated the Republican’s successful 2016 campaign and that he wants to use as he seeks to return to the White House.

It was a stark claim from a Democratic president that was met with astonishment and shock from immigrant advocates who have said his policies do not reflect the progressive approach they had expected.

“Voters want to see our elected leaders do the hard work to fix our frayed immigration system,” said Deirdre Schifeling, chief political and advocacy officer at the American Civil Liberties Union.

“President Biden and Congress must abandon these proposals and heed voters’ demands for fair and effective immigration policies that manage the border and treat people seeking safety with dignity.”

Mexicans accounted for 56,236 arrests in December, while Venezuelans were second with 46,937, erasing much of the decline that followed the start of deportation flights to Venezuela in October.


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