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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 154 points 9 months ago (20 children)

TL;DR: A patent and trademark agent and NPM bullied an Open Source Dev, so the Dev deleted his code from NPM as is his right. The internet broke. NPM restored the code against the dev's wishes. Corpos win...as always.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 77 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’d say the bigger issue was people live-linking to the files rather than downloading and using a version controlled copy they can control.

[–] jayrhacker@kbin.social 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They don't teach about Configuration Management in web-dev bootcamp

[–] Ramin_HAL9001@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They don’t teach about Configuration Management in web-dev bootcamp

Ha! Bullshit like configuration management, memory management, optimizing compilers, all obsolete technology! We don't need that anymore with modern web browsers now that every single computer ever is connected to the Internet, and now that we have AI to write code for us!!! JavaScript is the one true language!

(sarcasm)

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

I love how it broke React.

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[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 45 points 9 months ago

Original article not via pocket: https://qz.com/646467/how-one-programmer-broke-the-internet-by-deleting-a-tiny-piece-of-code

It's the left-pad npm incident, it was a big news back than, it has its own section on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npm#Dependency_chain_issues

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

I always reel in horror when projects have tiny, 'negligible to implement yourself' functions like these as dependencies. See also: is-even 🙄

Edit: is-even has a dependency on is-odd which has a dependency on is-number. 🤦‍♂️

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think is-odd is intentionally a reference to / satire of leftpad

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It was created in 2014, 2 years before the leftpad incident, when a user was learning JavaScript. They now have over 350k downloads per week.

However, https://github.com/slmjkdbtl/is-is-odd/issues/4 is a wonderful work of satire.

[–] jas0n@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Used in is-ten. Genius

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And the whole implementation of is-number which is at version 7.0.0:

module.exports = function(num) {
  if (typeof num === 'number') {
    return num - num === 0;
  }
  if (typeof num === 'string' && num.trim() !== '') {
    return Number.isFinite ? Number.isFinite(+num) : isFinite(+num);
  }
  return false;
};

The node.js ecosystem has always been madness.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

JavaScript is a dangerous shitshow for this exact reason. Dependencies are a security and stability nightmare.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Eh, I'd say any language that offers a package repository is just as susceptible. I'm neither pro- nor anti- dependency, but I do always try to keep them to an absolute minimum regardless of what environment I'm working in. Sometimes it makes sense to not reinvent the wheel.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Yes, but other languages have exponentially fewer packages that install when you add something, making the attack vector smaller and easier to monitor.

The best way to fix this is for library authors to avoid installing as many sub-dependencies as possible (is-odd, being an obvious example). But that’s a fundamental culture problem.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is why I only code in Assembly. /jk

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At this point it’s just a joke. Is there a npm for console log? I’ll have to check.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Yes you can, just don't odd

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Created by the organization "i-voted-for-trump"

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lol, I saw that. If you go to their main page, it's explained that it's a joke.

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Trump didn't even exist in 2014!

/s
he never did

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The only part of the story that I'm pissed at is NPM corporation restoring content on their server that they didn't own and published it to millions for profit.

Koçulu removed left pad. It was his code.

Can you imagine the lawsuits if when Disney pulled the license for Avengers on Netflix, Netflix responded with:

"Millions of customers got errors that Marvel Avengers is missing. So we put Avengers back on our servers."

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

11 lines of code shouldn't be a package.

[–] xor@infosec.pub 7 points 9 months ago (13 children)

you should see the "is_odd" package...

it's like, return (num%2)? true:false

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

People using this deserve that their code breaks. Absolutely ridiculous.

Neither this, nor the leftpad thing, nor this is-even “package” are things I would even think about for a second before just writing it on my own. I wouldn’t even consider those features (let alone packages to depend my code on!) but basic programming.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Problem is when you accidentally pull it in as a transitive dependency...

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah :( This also is why such nonsense “breaks the Internet” …

[–] xor@infosec.pub 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i just don't see how npm is letting this happen...
im going to write an npm module called "true" that just returns true...

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

… and that has 4 dependencies on it’s own!

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

and that's still too verbose. it should be (num % 2) != 0

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[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 13 points 9 months ago

I remember it live as it was happening. It was fun.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Nice run on sentence in your title. Great job.

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