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All I wanted was a simple search. (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

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This is ridiculous. It's taken me a long time to switch to DuckDuckGo because when I get comfortable with something, it's really difficult for me to switch, but if they're going to totally change it (even if it appears to only be for certain search terms now), this is the last straw.

To make it worse, this is a re-search. The first time I searched the term, it asked me if I wanted an AI definition at the top of the page.

No, I want a fucking Wikipedia link. I realize it's on the page, but come on.

This is the same search on DuckDuckGo:

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[-] eating3645@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago

I honestly do not see what you're upset about, both search engines look like they did well here.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I hate all the unnecessary clutter. It's needless. It wasn't that way once.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

I hate all the unnecessary clutter.

FYI, I use an adblocker to strategically remove annoying elements of a page (most will have a "click to remove" feature). You can probably do the same in whatever search you use, but I find it particularly useful on sites like Amazon or news sites.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 4 points 10 months ago

Same. That's why I run my own with Searx-NG. It sends your queries out to several (DDG, Google, Bing, and more) and aggregates the results to you. No extra crap, no bs, just what you searched for.

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

Thats just how it is. You hate unnecessary clutter. So use duckduckgo. And google users may not want to open wikipedia they might simply want the single sentence defenition shown.

Also there is nothing infuriating about this

[-] wjrii@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

LOL, please subscribe to /c/ obscure and specific pet peeves that an odd human has confused with universal annoyances @ wtf.lemmy.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

No, that looks effective to me. If you had to scroll through two pages of 20 minute videos of in-depth reflection on eternal September, I might be with you.

If you just wanted to see Wikipedia, go there and type it instead of Google.

[-] onelikeandidie@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Although I think duckduckgo did a better job, I still don't understand what is infuriating about this one. Google Search just wants to priorize showing you an excerpt from what you are looking for in case you are looking for a definition.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

What infuriates me is how ridiculously and needlessly cluttered it is.

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

These results seem pretty much the same to me?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

It's the clutter I hate.

[-] Cinnamon3431@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

if you want to go straight to wikipedia just go "!w eternal september"

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 10 months ago

Doesn't look like AI generated at all. They quoted Wiktionary to give the definition right at the top. Helpful

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I didn't say it was AI generated, I said they asked if I wanted an AI definition.

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

No, I want a fucking Wikipedia link.

Add "Wikipedia" to your search term, then.

It's worth noting that Wikipedia has recently gotten down-ranked in Google's search results. It's rare to be the first result anymore, so just add that to your search terms.

Or, alternatively, just go to Wikipedia and search directly on there. Remove the middleman if you already know what your final destination is going to be.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Because Google doesn't want to to leave Google. Putting Wikipedia at the top encouraged people to click away

So Google is now trying to deincentivize using the service they're providing.

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

it's literally a giant link on the right-side knowledge panel. Plus the purpose of a search engine is for you to go to other sites, why wouldn't it encourage people to click away if they don't have it

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

I don't even see how this is "cluttered". Do the two extra images really make that much of a difference to you? Plus isn't Wikipedia always a link in the right side's knowledge panel?

[-] wieli99@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

If it were the other way around, the narrative would be that google wastes space...

[-] PrunesMakeYouPoop@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

God forbid I Google for information about anything that may be a product for sale, because all I'll get is shopping links. It's super annoying.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 10 months ago

Try searching something like "best longboards," and you'll get lost in an ocean of potential deathtraps from Amazon Affiliate blogs. I wish there was an extension to filter out all Amazon Affiliate links from any page. They're an absolute plague

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 5 points 10 months ago

Startpage

Inetol's SearXNG

I'm not sure if this helps, but these are the two search engines I use most often.

[-] Whayle@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Thanks for this! SearXNG is great, and took just a few minutes to spin up the Docker container.

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Startpage gives better results than DDG and without clutter.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 10 months ago

There is a bit of clutter with the "related searches." I always find that super unhelpful, and I wish there were a setting to disable it.

It's still superior to both examples posted by OP, though.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Stopped using them when they started asking for a fucking captcha every few searches for VPN users.

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I use mullvad all the time, I see the captcha only a few times a week, if at all.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe they toned it down a bit, but they've already lost me.

[-] Shurimal@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

This seems to be one of the rare times these days that google actually does a pretty good job getting you the result you seek for without clutter and ads.

Also, use bangs to search on a specific site. If I want to search for an article on Wikipedia, I just type in "w ". d for DuckDuckGo, g for Google, b for Bing etc. I default to Brave primarily and DuckDuckGo secondarily.

[-] atocci@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I like whatever Bing has going on TBH

[-] Senex@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

FYI Duckduckgo has a lite version. Bare bones. Just search results. lite.duckduckgo.com

[-] illectrility@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Qwant's lite version is better imo. Just as fast but much more functional

[-] Senex@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

I wasn't aware Qwant had a lite version. Cool!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Nice. Thanks!

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Blank white background. Eww.

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