I'll never understand the drive to make other people's lives more miserable. We're given only so many years in this planet. Why not enjoy your life and let others enjoy theirs. These people seemingly can't do either of those.
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2023
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I guess it's a good coping mechanism to not face your own problems. Also you always have something to do and you feel involved.
I do think it gives them a bigger narrative to be a part of. I suspect that's a big draw too. It's just a really shit narrative.
Good point. I think one thing modern world (maybe it was always this way) is kind of lacking providing people with meaning. Sure you are free to search and create your own, which is undoubtfully great. But some people need others people stories to make any sense of that mess we call life.
"good"
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They carry so much hate inside that it rises up and makes them ugly on the outside. Just look at all of those Neo-Nazis who would never meet the criteria for being Aryan.
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate...
People often do it for free, but it is also a business model.
Imagine being such a failure as a human being that they drag others down the hole they've stubbornly dug for themselves.
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They are not "flocking to Threads", they were already in Instagram and Facebook. Meta is going to have to pay one day or another for cowering in front of religious countries by allowing homophobia and anti-atheist and anti-freethinker hate-speech in those countries. I had to deal a lot with those and reporting them did nothing, because moderators are sourced locally from those countries, and the laws in those countries are in favor of that kind of hate-speech.
I know exactly what you mean
This is the answer: they were already there to begin with
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A lot of people are flocking to Threads, so why wouldn’t these groups?
I was hoping they would just enjoy Elon’s twitter but apparently they really need to pollute the common spaces otherwise they get bored
They'll go anywhere they can get attention I suppose
Yup, Nazis don't want a circle jerk chamber. They specifically want to get into general public spaces so they can recruit. This is why you often find Nazi shit in the weirdest places (such as the bronies).
It's why moderation is needed on all social media platforms. It's also why "we don't tolerate Nazis" needs to be a general rule. They are a cancer.
That and they want to make public platforms miserable for the people they hate.
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Exactly. It'll happen with any platform that gains traction. I'm even seeing some fringe groups appearing in some niche Lemmy instances, too. People are going to go to wherever other people are.
As if we needed one more reason to defederate.
” He went on to instruct his followers to “try and build a big account. I mean, if you get in early, maybe some of you guys can blow up and red pill some people on there.”
Red pill? Did pro-authoritarian, white supremacist, and self-proclaimed incel, Nick Fuentes unironically use "red pill"? lmao What a clown.
I don't understand why these incels insist on using a Matrix analogy, red-pill just means "truth" and blue-pill means "ignorance", why do they constantly subvert a basic concept? It's literally the same with "woke", it literally just means what it says, "being attuned to what's going on". Nothing more, but these idiots literally ruin it, if anything they're blue-pilled, going by the Matrix
The Matrix is also queer af and full of anti-fascist themes. So these incel guys are really barking up the wrong tree in so many ways
They quote the Bible without understanding it either, not surprising they'd do it with a movie.
Red pill/blue pill was written as an analogy to the experience of trans people, as well. The ignorance with how they've co-opted the concept runs quite deep.
This is literally 1984’s double thinking: the people accusing other people of being woke and defining themselves as red-pilled (woken up to a reality) are in turn the most ignorant. They are accusing their enemy of having reached a state of mind they themselves claim to have reached, while they actually did not. Totally paradoxical.
Facebook and its properties have always been a safe haven for them.
Which is why no one should be federated with threads.
Evil only has to win once or twice to succeed. Good has to win every time. In other words, evil will always try to worm its way into new things, and good will always have to yank them out.
Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.
(please don't prove Lord Darkhelmet right)
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Are you honestly shocked? They're trying to get in while Threads is overwhelmed by new signups. Hopefully Meta will do the right thing and kick them off but they probably won't.
The big corps have always had a right wing bias. The corps bend over backwards to cator to these asshats while shitting all over the left.
There's a reason this stuff thrives on places like Facebook and will continue to do so. They also want a platform that has the widest reach.
It's why they want to be in the big sites instead of making their own because they want the rest of us to see their nonsense. There may not end up being a big hate presence on fedi stuff because any right wing instances will be broadly blacklisted either by the instances or by the users.
Businesses love right wingers because they are more active, and engaged, than left wingers. They tend not to run adblock, and click and buy shit from ads. So the average right winger brings in more money than the average left winger.
They also tend to get babied because the left will see someone break the rules and get punished and be all "Yeah, he deserved that", but if a right winger gets held accountable, The entire flock goes full rabid and loses their shit with threats of violence, threats of bombings, protests, employee harassment, etc etc.
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Fuck all nazi scum
I believe this is not a feature of Threads itself but of any new social media app or fediverse instance. Nazis are looking for places to spread.
They ALWAYS do. Communication exists. Do your part and shut them down and send them information for therapy. It’s hilarious. They are losers and will always be unless they get help. There is no intolerance except for the intolerant racists!
Why? They’re more than welcome on Twitter now.
My theory is even right wingers hate right wing cesspools. Like there is no shortage of far right communities on the internet, but even if you were to be a right leaning person who has no problem with "a little free speech", you are going to be a "cucked liberal" to someone else. Maybe you are a fiscally conservative hypercapitalist but have no problem with the existence of gay and trans people. Maybe your a terf but still care a lot about abortion rights and access to healthcare. Maybe your extremely religious, but believe it is your duty to help the poor and provide charity for those in need. You are going to clash with someone in the same space as you, and there are going to be fewer protections from harassment and less places where you can feel safe in speaking than if you were on a more mainstream space with actual moderation. In the end the platform is going to be hospitable to only the most extreme of conservatives, and its going to become an echochamber of the same opinions, and the same hate and anger.
Second, most of these accounts and groups have the goal of recruitment in mind. You're not going to recruit many people in the far right echochamber because your basically preaching to the choir, so instead you go to the platformers where all the "normies" are at. There you can spread prop, pick easy fights and make your side look strong, and convince ordinary people that what you believe isn't all "that bad", or that it's the liberals/trans people/feminists/jews who are the disgusting or unhinged ones.
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They were told they could now freely make threads and misheard.
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Threads is doing a decent job moderating them. They put warnings if you subscribe to someone known to spread misinformation and they remove posts that break TOS.
Obviously the attention seekers are going to run to every platform. I don't think it's fair journalism to say that certain groups are moving to Threads when it's many groups.
"Men are creating thousands of accounts on Threads. Why are the majority of accounts female? Our data analysis explains here!" Is kind of the same clickbait.
I won't argue that racists don't make up a loud percentage of text-based social media, though.
ONLY until the rest of the users give them the "fuck off you nazi trash" response that they actually deserve.
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Hahah, lemme know when they actually do fuck off. Sure, they deserve that response but it's not gonna get rid of them any more than it has anywhere else on the capitalist web.
Every single platform has them. From anything centralized to decentralized.
Please ignore the exploding heads behind the curtains
Just called my mom to tell her to stay away. Can't risk her being caught up with it.
They're gonna need a lot of mods
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