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In an interview on the Israeli Basketball Association's website, Israeli player Dor Saar said before the game: "It's known that they are quite anti-semitic and it's no secret, and maybe that's why a strong game is expected.

"We have to show that we're better than them and win. We talk about it among ourselves. We know they don't love us and we will leave everything on the field always and in this game especially."

Basketball Ireland's statement prior to the start of the game read: "Basketball Ireland informed Fiba Europe yesterday that as a direct result of recent comments made by Israeli players and coaching staff - including inflammatory and wholly inaccurate accusations of anti-Semitism, published on official Israeli Federation channels - that our players will not be partaking in traditional pre-match arrangements with our upcoming opponents.

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 208 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's known that they are quite anti-semitic

I love it when isrealis reveal that they can't differentiate between their nationality and the religion

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago

This is your brain on ethnostate

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 25 points 4 months ago

Israelis must seem like the perfect Russians in Putin's eyes.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago

That may be more right than you think since Putin had long had a stance of 'get the fuck out of my country if you don't like me' and Israel was and important destination for those who complied.

About 15% of Israel citizens seem to be russian speaking, because of emigration from the USSR and later Russia, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Israel

[-] WallEx@feddit.de 6 points 4 months ago

oh yeah, that happens a LOT.

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[-] Cokeser@feddit.de 44 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Great display of standing up against false "anti-semitic" claims, when criticizing the politics of Israel.

~~The article unfortunately does not state who won...does anyone know? The BBC basketball section obviously doesn't, at least I couldn't find it there.~~

Edit: The article actually states the result. Israel won 87-57. :/

[-] RobAley@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago

Says is the article "which Israel won 87-57"

[-] Cokeser@feddit.de 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I seem to have skipped multiple times over that information. Thanks and sorry BBC!

Its even in the TLDR summary..quite embarassing. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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[-] moitoi@feddit.de 28 points 4 months ago

It is inerrant to sport to be political. People are competing in teams based on political borders. Issues won't disappear because it's sport. It's socially here and teams take these with them.

[-] cazssiew@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago
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[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We have to show that we're better than them and win.

I will edit comment, because it was poor taste and inappropriate, thus the responses

But still, this sounds at least the way Soviet sports teams were supposed to always be the best to prove a point of Soviets being best in everything. That's not how things work, you don't prove your point by beating someone, in sport or otherwise.

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[-] nichtsowichtig@feddit.de 9 points 4 months ago

how am I supposed to understand this, what is the context here?

An Israeli player said "It's known that they are quite anti-semitic" and the entire irish team felt so offended by that that they decided not to shake the hands of the israeli team? To show them how unfounded the allegations are?

What are the details here? the article doesn't really say much

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You too, seem to misunderstand the same thing that the Israeli team misunderstood. ~~Sweden~~ Ireland does not like what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. ~~Sweden~~ Ireland has nothing against Jews but does not like Israel's genocide on Palestine. There is a difference between the country and the religion and antisemitism is used for the religion alone.

It's like if you argue that you're getting downvoted because of antisemitism when you're actually being downvoted because you are wrong. It has nothing to do with religion

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

That's cool but we're talking about the Irish basketball team.

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[-] doctorcrimson 26 points 4 months ago

I can see how a lack of context could be confusing, but Irish leadership have condemned Israel's genocide in Palestine and compared it to The Troubles and other past conflicts between Ireland and the larger Great Britain. Basically, Ireland and Israel have poor international relationships because Ireland doesn't like the way Israel slaughters tens of thousands of people while starving out millions based solely on ethnicity.

This bad relationship has affected how the two sports teams interact with each other, and the Israeli pre-emptively insulted the Irish basketball association officials and team leadership before the match even began, so of course they won't be given bare minimum mutual respect when they show up to the matches in the future.

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Ireland women's basketball team refused to shake hands with Israel before their EuroBasket 2025 qualifier in Riga.

Basketball Ireland said the comments were "inflammatory and wholly inaccurate".Ireland players also lined up for their anthem beside the team's bench rather than the centre of the court before the game, which Israel won 87-57.

The match, which was moved to Riga because of the ongoing war in Gaza, went ahead despite Basketball Ireland facing pressure to boycott the fixture.

Basketball Ireland's statement prior to the start of the game read: "Basketball Ireland informed Fiba Europe yesterday that as a direct result of recent comments made by Israeli players and coaching staff - including inflammatory and wholly inaccurate accusations of anti-Semitism, published on official Israeli Federation channels - that our players will not be partaking in traditional pre-match arrangements with our upcoming opponents.

"This includes exchanging of gifts, formal handshakes before or after the game, while our players will line up for the Irish national anthem by our bench rather than centre court.

"In an interview on the Israeli Basketball Association's website, United States-based student Saar said: "It's known that they are quite anti-semitic and it's no secret, and maybe that's why a strong game is expected.


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