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[–] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 122 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

>Be anywhere outside of the US

>cheer or clap in a movie theater

>everybody turns towards you, frozen in disgust at what you're doing

So true, I still find so weird when americans write something like "and then everyone in the movie theater started screaming and cheering when X happened"

Like WTF? You shut up and watch the movie in a movie theater, it is not a stadium!

[–] spiderman@ani.social 9 points 1 year ago

everybody turns towards you, frozen in disgust at what you're doing

that's not the case in India, you literally can't hear movies if you want to watch it on the first show of the first day. actually it's better avoiding the first day's shows

[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I am American in the US, I go to the movies every month or two and I've never been in a movie theater where people cheered/clapped at the screen.

[–] hoodlem@hoodlem.me 96 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There is no Hiroshima scene in the movie, anon, unless I somehow completely missed it? The detonation shown is the first test bomb and was in New Mexico.

Anyway, I guess point is Koreans hate the Japanese or something? Is that a thing I didn’t know about?

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's not a great relationship.

During the colonial period, more than 100,000 Koreans served in the Imperial Japanese Army. The service of these Korean men was forced upon them.

Approximately 200,000 Korean children (predominantly ages 12–17) were also sent forcefully as "comfort women" at the war frontlines to serve the Imperial Japanese Army as sex slaves.

In 2013, polls reported that 94% of Koreans believe Japan "Feels no regret for its past wrongdoings," while 63% of Japanese state that Korean demands for Japanese apologies are "Incomprehensible"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan%E2%80%93Korea_relations

[–] radix@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was attempted cultural genocide. Some of the older generations have a Japanese name from when parents were forced to give their babies Japanese names and not speak Korean.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Y’know what’s hilarious though?

The current South Korean government is a direct descendant from the dictatorial regime implemented by the US after the Korean War. That regime was mostly made up from former Japanese colonial rulers, Koreans who were cozy to Japanese rule.

So the current political, cultural and economic situation there is based on American and Japanese rule and culture.

[–] radix@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yikes. I never heard that.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

The more you read about Korea and the Korean War the sadder you become 😄

[–] hoodlem@hoodlem.me 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good lord, never knew. 94%, that means that virtually everyone walking down the street has a problem with the Japanese on some level.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Talk to a Korean grandparent and they will never be kind to the Japanese.

[–] greenteadrinker@midwest.social 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Japan annexed Korea back around WWI - WWII, and committed a fair amount of atrocities. I believe that the older generations of Korea do not like Japan, understandably. I don’t think it’s common for younger Koreans to share the same sentiment of the older generation

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

It might be filtering down to at least some youth by word of mouth and entertainment. I read comics from Japan, Korea, and China, and it's interesting how they display political rivals. Japan tends to use China, America, and Russia primarily, with America often being not totally an enemy but an arrogant ally. Korea tends to have Japan, North Korea, China, then America playing a similar role. The Chinese ones I do read are often more inwardly focuses, but I have seen America, India, and... hmm I can't recall if I've seen much others, seems to be more about oppressive rich families and regional strife.

This is all subjective based on the stuff I've read of course. In I'm not sure whether you'd call it positive or just being factual, in the Japanese manga Hikaru no Go, China and Korea are both rivals, with Japan being third place among them. Still, since it's Go/igo/baduk/weiqi and not serious international matters, it was more about pride and such. They do have a chapter with Koreans living in Japan having some bitterness towards Japanese opinion of them. Mahouka Kouka also had a section where Americans who grew up in Japan on military bases felt racist pressure from Japanese, but that work also pretty much ignored Korea and had it absorbed into China as a villian.

I digress. I just wanted to day entertainment is great at passing down grudges and prejudice, and the media I've seen still has a lot of it.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago

Anyway, I guess point is Koreans hate the Japanese or something? Is that a thing I didn’t know about?

Oh boy, you're in a for a wild ride, my friend!

[–] tapping2562@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] hoodlem@hoodlem.me 1 points 1 year ago

I’ll have to watch it again! I wouldn’t mind, it was a good movie.

[–] Roundcat@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't nuke Japan in the movie though...

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That’s what real life is for

[–] iwan2c@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does Korea have beef with Japan !?

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Older generations of some Asians haven't forgiven Japan for its War Atrocities they have committed on mainland Asia and the other Pacific islands before and during WW2 . It's less of a problem with generations after the various wars. Its fairly common for older generations to hold onto grudges.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having been party to the wrong end of a genocide, a simple “my bad” would be nice. Japan’s radio silence allows opinions to fester.

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's partly due to the Japanese government being run by old people and not the new generation. It's the same way with japans opinions about other opponents and history in ww2 trying to downplay their actions.

[–] brewbellyblueberry@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It didn't seem like a lot of younger people acknowledged anything, even the blatant casual racism some of them blurted constantly. They were shocked when I said all the racism is weird to experience and witness. Sure it was extra apparent as a white guy in an Asian country and a foreign culture, often being the target of it, but most didn't exactly speak highly of Koreans or Chinese, or white people, or black people...

[–] gullible@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Countries with a monoculture are racist as shit and the majority of the world’s population is housed within monoculture countries. Exposure breeds acceptance and without exposure, there can be no acceptance.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Younger generation here hates Japan

[–] odium@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ofc? Look up what happened in Korea during the first half of the 20th century.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You mean look at what Japan did to the entire asian pacific. It is my understanding that the youth in Japan arent even taught that they did anything wrong (or only gloss over the facts) and dont even know why older generations hate them.

[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Funny thing about Hiroshima, ten thousand of Korean prisoners died there because of the bomb...