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Despite the recent release of these Tesla EVs — and the little road time they’ve been subjected to — Cybertrucks are already developing imperfections on their body panels, leading owners to debate what’s causing the early signs of rust on forums. From Futurism:

One Cybertruck Owners Club forum member says they started noticing small orange flecks appearing on his truck after driving it in the rain for just two days.

“Just picked up my Cybertruck today,” they wrote. “The advisor specifically mentioned the cybertrucks develop orange rust marks in the rain and that required the vehicle to be buffed out.”

The Cybertruck owner posted followup photos after washing the vehicle down with soap, and they didn’t inspire much confidence, showing body panels already pockmarked with small orange spots.

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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 152 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yet another example proving that having more money is no indication of intellect or critical thinking skills.

Teslas have always been junk. Junk the manufacturer doesn't even bother stocking adequate replacement parts for because you already bought it, suckers.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 66 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Tesla agrees ...

Owners say the EVs are not actually stain proof, and even the Tesla Cybertruck manual confirms the steel panels are susceptible to such corrosive substances as grease, oil, tree resin, dead insects, etc., which should be washed off quickly to prevent corrosion.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can probably find a similar passage in the manual for my 2014 VW. I'll check in the morning and report back.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 24 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Surface contaminants such as acid rain, rain dust, airborne pollutants, bird droppings, bug splatter and industrial fallout can cause clear coat finishes to look faded.

but ...

they are more sensitive to scratches and you should be careful not to use abrasive rubbing or polishing compounds on them. Source

The scratches/chips/etc are where rust developes.

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[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 75 points 10 months ago (9 children)

There's a bunch of Deloreans out there still rustless. Meanwhile at Tesla...

[–] mr_robot2938@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Wow, up until today I thought the DeLorean body panels were aluminum. TIL DeLorean body panels are stainless steel. I've had the opportunity to view them up close several times (auto auctions, car shows, etc.), and never noticed any signs of rust or discoloration.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Delorean body panels are made out of 304 stainless steel.

It’s more expensive, but highly corrosion resistant.

Cyber truck uses 301 stainless, which is meant more for industrial and commercial environments where the steel is kept out of the elements or will be painted with a weather resistant coating.

Why does Tesla use 301? Probably because Starship uses 301 steel body panels for the skin on the booster and vehicle. Bulk purchasing material like that will drive down the cost for them and make a little more profit. 301 is also very strong, and one of the design points of Cyber truck was that it with be bulletproof, for some reason. I’ve yet to see anyone actually shoot their cyber truck, but I doubt those body panels are stopping anything more energetic than a .32 ACP.

Now why is a spacecraft covered in steel? I have no idea. Rockets should be as light as possible to maximize the amount of energy you get out of the fuel.

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[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

And if memory serves the manual told you to clean the steel with gasoline.

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[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago (4 children)

These are, and forever will be, talismans of stupidity. Anyone seen driving one should be mocked until they feel the appropriate amount of shame for having bought one.

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[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Best reason I could find for this is related to the DeLorean since it also uses stainless steel. Apparently, the reason it doesn't rust easily is because of a high chromium content in the steel, so maybe tesla used cheaper stainless steel.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 66 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Even Tesla's own manual says to clean the car immediately of bird poop, bug splatter, tree sap, salt water, oil, grease, chemicals. That should be the red flag right there. Tesla cheaped out on painting the truck, not even a transparent lacquer and now owners will be perpetually washing their trucks or watch them rust. These things really are just a fail on so many levels.

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[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (8 children)

There are different stainless alloys comprising of various level of iron. Nickel-based stainless, for instance, will not rust. Lots of surgical stainless steels will not rust.

This is just Tesla choosing the wrong alloy to save dollars.

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[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 57 points 10 months ago (5 children)

For what it's worth you don't have to spend much time around stainless steel to realize the word 'stainless' isn't literal. I bet you exactly 0 knife nerds actually believed this thing wasn't going to rust.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

Stainless doesn't rust. Stainless alloys do. Knives are an alloy because they need certain properties to be able to sharpen them properly and hold an edge.

Medical stainless doesn't rust and whatever the hell my kitchen sink is doesn't either.

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[–] corstian@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

Ah yes rusted down cybertrucks on the road. That's more like the dystopian future I imagined.

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s stain-less, not stain-never.

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[–] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 10 months ago

Some Cybertruck owners say their fellow Cybertruckers are blowing things out of proportion,
and one said it’s a good idea to not “...drive it in the rain, or get it wet.”

Others expressed anger that Tesla’s options for protecting the steel panels cost thousands of dollars.

😂😂😂 just incredible,
having a car that rusts in the rain clearly is just haters blowing things out of proportion.

and of course the solution only costs 5 grand.
pretty sure you could get another car that doesnt rust in the rain for less than that.

[–] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

Well, if you were stupid enough to buy a joke truck, you deserve joke consequences

[–] THE_MASTERMIND@feddit.ch 36 points 10 months ago

Let's spread a rumor that elon pisses on each and every cybertruck before it leaves factory to mark dominance and his drug induced piss is the reason of rust.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You mean it somehow gets uglier? Given their history, I'm guessing Tesla will charge a fortune for special buffing pads and will void warranties for use of non-Tesla anti-rust measures.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago

No you just use the flame thrower to re-smelt your vehicle every 2-3 days, obviously. And only drive in Tesla-approved holes. Why can’t you people see the future?

[–] HollandJim@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

This was inane from the start and calling rust a “patina”…

I swear, if this doesn’t certify them as a cult, I don’t know what will.

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[–] darkmatternoodlecow@programming.dev 29 points 10 months ago

Imagine what kind of clown you'd have to be to buy a Tesla in 2024. I mean, Jesus Christ. They might as well tattoo the word TWAT onto their forehead in flashing, fluorescent ink.

[–] SrTobi@feddit.de 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is just fitting for people who were so afraid of other people damaging their cars that they go stainless steel cars, only for them to rust in every day rain. Hahaha cyber truck is a gift that keeps giving

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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 28 points 10 months ago

There's a reason unpainted metal bicycle frames tend to be the titanium ones, and not steel.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

professional metallurgists feel free to chime in and back me up on this, but i think rusting at the first sign of rain is an indication those panels are made of junk

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It’s stain**less** steel, not no-rust steel. All stainless oxidizes, faster or slower depending on the chromium percentage. Normally we call it “tarnish” and it comes right off, but if you cheap out with a low grade stainless steel and/or inferior coating, stainless steel will rust like carbon steel, just slower and less completely

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[–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (8 children)

$81,000 and go up to $101,000 depending on the trim and options

And they cheap out on the steel?

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[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

stainless ≠ rust free

That's literally why it's called stainless instead of rust free. All stainless isn't made equal and actual rust free steel is expensive.

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[–] Psiczar@aussie.zone 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s not rust, it’s patina.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 36 points 10 months ago

Yeah, a patina of iron oxide.

[–] hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago (5 children)

"Looking forward to the patina" HAHA whatever you fools gotta tell yourselves...

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[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

one said it’s a good idea to not “...drive it in the rain, or get it wet.”

HAHAHAHAHAHA

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

It's just the gpu adding the realistic textures.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

The Ford Pinto finally has a worthy rival for the title of shittiest car ever produced.

[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I don't know, looks like what they wanted, dystopian by design.

Here's a picture of a Cybertruck Model 2 from 2050:

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[–] Gruntyfish@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's stainless steel, not rustless steel! /s

[–] maness300@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In all honesty, stainless steel is just that: it stains less.

Stainproof steel is steel that would not stain.

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