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Samuel Moreno-Carranza, age seven, was injured after his mother fired a rifle inside church and police responded, killing her

A boy who was shot in the head at celebrity pastor Joel Osteen’s Houston megachurch on 11 February has lost “a portion of his frontal lobe” while recovering at the hospital, according to his grandmother.

In a Facebook post three days after the shooting, Walli Carranza said her seven-year-old grandson, Samuel Moreno-Carranza, “has lost a major part of what makes us who we are” after “half of his right skull [had] to be surgically removed during two surgeries done in less than 24 hours”. Samuel had endured “cardiac arrest multiple times, and no one can determine whether he has significant brain activity because his scalp tissue is too friable” to let doctors attach electroencephalogram wires to him, Carranza added in a post that doubled as a criticism of the US’s lack of meaningful gun control.

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[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (20 children)

So the good guys with the guns may have shot and killed a 7 year old? Great argument to justify not doing anything resembling gun control.

On another note, Houston has an excellent Medical Center and I wish the little boy the best of luck. How awful for the entire family.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

The ,"good guys with guns" shoot and kill a lot of Innocent people.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it crazy to begin with that Texas's churches have armed guards? Shouldn't Jesus protect them?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

With enough prayers 🙏 anything is possible right? Right?

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[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"Guns aren't the problem."

They're a pretty massive part of it. Abolish the second amendment.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago (4 children)

"But how are we going to defend ourselves against all the other people with guns?"

The US is messed up.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's it right here.

As a person of color, removing the second amendment affects us more. Gun control was considered when the Black Panthers armed themselves. During the more chaotic weeks of BLM protests, armed protesters were the reason cops behaved.

We would need a thanos-level snap to change - from cops, to people's minds - everywhere all at once.

But while cops are killing dogs, shooting shoplifters in the back of the head, and emptying their gun when they hear an acorn fall... Disenfranchised communities will be the most affected by this.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't see a single helpful point in your comment though. It all reads like "Things are bad but if you try to make things better they might get worse for a bit so don't do that."

Gun control IS THE ANSWER. Will there be shitty consequences? Yes. But I feel like shitty consequences for a few years while national identity is changed is a lot better than the status quo where the hallways of elementary schools are painted red with blood every other week.

Turbulence and turmoil for a time as people sort their shit out or endless dead kids and endless mass shootings? Kind of a no brainer.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love Americans who think their guns are gonna protect them against the u.s government, who could shoot a guided drone up their asshole and make it look like an accident, before they even knew what hit them

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think there is the gun owners who absolutely fantasize they can hold off a trained army with their guns with Rambo. But thats a minority.

The real gun mindset is, "If you're going to do it, I'll make it difficult for you". This is a key shift here. It's the mindset that "there is going to always be thieves, crazies, rapists, house burglars... I'd rather own a gun and protect myself rather than wait for help."

Most of the world doesn't think like that. They laugh at Americans. But this is our American gun culture.

We don't trust cops (Uvalde school shooting just being the recent example). And I'm not saying any of this is right. But when one side believes they can use guns to threaten the opposition (BLM protests, abortion clinics), suddenly when both sides are armed, it's suddenly a "peaceful event". During those proud boy protests and Nazi protests, when armed liberals told them to fuck off... They did. But if it was unarmed townsfolk, they laughed. And worse, the cops either ignored them or put up a barrier to protect them.

Again, not saying this is the world I prefer - not by a long shot. But I want to break that whole opinion that gun owners only want to defend against "da gubberment".

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

There's also just a general lack of trust in other people in the US. Not just the government. People always have to walk around looking over their shoulders. It's not like that in other developed countries. The guns play into that. In the US, you just never know if someone's going to be armed. In most other countries, it's pretty safe to assume that people are unarmed.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I dunno coast guard?

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Clearly we need personal owned nukes.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

That's also true about a lot of non-shot members of Osteen's church.

Poor kid though. He didn't deserve any of what he got.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Right. Are we sure he had it when he came in?

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

His Mom was a murderous terrorist supporter, he was fucked before he ever stepped foot into the Church. Poor kid. Hope he gets quality care for the rest of his life.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He won't and may already be functionally dead. The chance to save any of these people evaporated a long time ago. It was deemed "not profitable".

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And yet, it was the cops that shot him.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Hey, next time maybe don't bring your kid along when you plan on doing terrorist things while supporting a fucking terrorist organization.

Sucks for the kid, but this is mom's fault all the way down the line. I say that as a strong acab believer too.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

A small price to pay so that the NRA can earn more money.

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