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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] NeedingvsGetting@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What the actual fuck? He has a history of crashing his police cruiser - why the fuck isn't he on desk duty? I hope the family sues for wrongful death. I wish they could make him pay, rather than the taxpayers, but god forbid a cop should face the consequences of their actions.

[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Vehicular manslaughter has a nicer ring to it

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://apnews.com/article/fort-wayne-police-officer-fatal-collision-pedestrian-330047c5be9d100dbbb09853a8c1db93

The person Sgt. Joshua Hartup killed was a lawyer. I wonder if the lawyer had pissed off the police previously.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That suspicion occurred to me, too — was Henry Najdeski a tenacious criminal defense attorney? But nah, he worked in real estate.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Same place they shot out a kids eye when he was at a peaceful protest and they started tear-gassing everyone.

[–] BillDaCatt@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How does this happen?

In my mind, every cop who causes a death should permanently lose their job! I know that sounds extreme, and it is, but so is killing someone!

[–] ante@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The Fort Wayne PD has a storied history of being complete pieces of shit with no consequences.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

because american (and other) police forces are systematically corrupt

Wow. A life gone and the cost of that life was $40.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

That's seems super cheap for a random murder even by USA standards ...

... tho it might actually be a record since he was actually fined (and not the country/taxpayers).

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Does that mean it would only cost someone 35.50 to run a cop over? Everyone's equal before the law right?