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Alabama supreme court’s decision causing a temporary halt in IVF care shines spotlight on problem between two groups

There is a growing rift in the decades-old marriage between anti-abortion activists and Republican lawmakers.

The problem came into view last month, after a bombshell decision from the Alabama supreme court temporarily halted in vitro fertilization (IVF). The ruling, which described frozen embryos as “extrauterine children”, unraveled when the Republican-controlled legislature passed short-term protections for IVF providers.

Under a new law signed last week by Republican governor Kay Ivey, IVF providers are temporarily protected from civil litigation and criminal prosecution in the event of “damage or death of an embryo” during treatment.

The move offered a helpful, if limited lifeline, to IVF patients in the state. The new law does not refute the Alabama supreme court’s controversial position that an embryo, stored for the purpose of IVF, is a person. Nor does it permanently shield IVF providers from legal penalties.

Despite its limited scope, the Republican-backed law took a step to align the GOP with US public consensus, which overwhelmingly supports IVF. It also invoked the wrath of rightwing Christian activists.

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 88 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Nancy Reagan presented herself as a had core, dyed in the wool, 100% Right To Lifer. That all flew out the window when someone explained that fetal stem cells might help her husband's dementia.

They are always strictly guided by their unshakable religious faith until it bumps into something they want.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 45 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Because - shocker - they’re a bunch of selfish, self-serving, lying hypocrites and even their so-called “religious faith” was, itself, only ever a means to an end.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'd like to see one time one of these 'religious' leaders actually suffered for their faith. Martin L. King and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference people went to jail and suffered violence for their faith. Can anyone name an American Rightwinger who was in physical danger from their crusades?

Edit = I meant to say 'Rightwing leader.' Then I remembered Herman Cain.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Was that guy who decided to go to North sentinel island to try to convert the natives to evangelical Christianity and got himself killed a conservative? I would imagine, given the religious position

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

I'll edit. I meant to say 'leader.' and I forgot about Herman Cain dying of Covid after attending rallies.

I'm sure many Rightwingers have lost money, like the folks who brought Trump's NFTs without knowing how to store them.

[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

This should be read before any 'pro-life' debate.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Like how Alabama wants to classify embryos created during IVF as "potential life" to get around that whole "we believe life begins at conception, therefore all abortion is murder what do you mean IVF makes a bunch of life that has to be thrown away?" problem.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

https://youtu.be/j8ZF_R_j0OY

Well, there's always a 'loophole.'

nsfw

[–] Crank_it@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Let us eat popcorn

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So it's the No True Scotsman fallacy in the flesh?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Scotsman? Naw thems “Patriots”. Or if you prefer, “real muricans”