platform bias is real, folks. i’ve had lots of the lemmy F’s since i’ve been here.
this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2023
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That is a fair point.
You fucking moron!
I made the mistake of poking my head into /c/communism the other day. If you have a constructive opinion about something, speak up and join the chat over there! You will soon learn that you are a fascist baby killer as well, regardless of who you actually are.
It was a breath of fresh air, lemmie tell ya.
Yep, that was one of the places. Well not /c/communism directly, more like /c/latestagecapitalism showed up on my feed, which is essentially the same thing. I responded to a post without looking at the community, saying (respectfully) that I thought a 70% tax is ridiculous for any demographic or socioeconomic status and I wondered how and why innovation happens in that kind of tax system, and I learned how many ways my family could die at their hands and how I’m the reason death and disease happen in the world. The mods removed the threats but I removed my comment to stop them from returning. I didn’t know it was the communism part 2 /c/.
What’s worse is THEIR threats were being upvoted by the community and my respectful original comment and replies were being downvoted like crazy. It wasn’t just the commenters - the voters were complicit. I had ZERO upvotes other than my own. There isn’t a decent human over there if you’re not a communist. They want to kill you. They told me, in lots of ways.
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I find your words of the utmost distaste. Does your mothers tongue slosh around as vacuously as your own?
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As a Reddit user who's recently moved to Lemmy - that's a fair point, you fucking moron
That's quite a fair point.
I think the reason behind that is that it's a new place and people are shy in new environments. Not only they behave more cautious but they lurk more (which leads to more lurking by others).
Did you get that you fucking moron?
Are you fucking sorry??
No, this is Patrick.
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I hope Lemmy moves past this phase of directly measuring itself in every way, real and imagined, against Reddit. Doesn't seem like a healthy way to start the community. We need our own identity if we ever hope for this to take hold.
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I'm wondering if it's the lurkers. Based on personal experience: I enjoyed Reddit from the sidelines for years--never made an account. Switch to Lemmy and few users means no conversation, so I figured I'd jump in. But it turns out I'm a pretty boring, literal, mild-mannered commenter. Nice, but no zing. I'm still kind of waiting for the banter.
no zing doesn't get the upvotes though!
And that's exactly what i want. So over the recycled, rehashed, reposted, or whatever that has become of almost every subreddit.
can we go back to sharing information and solutions and it being at least kind of fun
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I feel this. It felt like anything I ever had to comment had been said a dozen times by the time I stumbled into a thread, so I rarely felt any need or desire to post on Reddit. Here, I almost feel obligated to, just to keep the threads going. Part of me is excited to see the activity keep picking up here, but part of me is enjoying actually feeling like my boring-ass comments are worth posting, and also knowing said lame comments aren't going to get heaped with random snark. Feels like the medium size forums I used to frequent back in the 00s and early 10s.
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I am absolutely trying my best to be friendly, tolerant and open minded here on Lemmy to set the tone for a growing culture here
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That hasn't been my experience.
It's still a very mixed reaction if you say something contrary to the dominant opinion.
And still just as likely to get strawmanned if you disagree with an aspect, but still overall agree with the conclusion.
So far my experience on Lemmy.world is more hostile than I was expecting. Very quick to downvote and troll here. Hoping I've only just had the misfortune of finding a lot of bad eggs quickly??????
Lemmy.world got big fast. Almost everything I see from Lemmy.world isn't particularly good because of this. It seems to have a lot of low effort content and more hostility. It's the instance that the laziest group of migrants joined, and it shows. A lot of people didn't look past the instance with the highest user count. No offense to anyone who joined it, this might not be you just some of the people there are this.
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What community are you subscribed to?
Generally, my experience was welcoming with long posts and orderly discussion.
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Now we just have to keep this culture of respect, even if the platform gains popularity. Buckle up!
I am currently in the middle of a lengthy political argument with someone on c/politics, and we fundamentally disagree on things, but both of us are being cordial about it and I appreciate that.
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I've encountered some rude people on Lemmy, but also a lot of people who love genuine discussion, helping others and want the best for the platform and communities.
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Lets test this…
Abortion should be illegal because that would help population grow faster, leading to more cheap labor that would benefit everyone. It should also be illegal to be gay, because gay people cannot have children and all major companies need more workers. Gay people are also not as fun to joke with during lunch. Therefore having gay people in your company will decrease the productivity of your workers.
What steps did you take today to prevent the spread of gay and abortions?
that is a fair point you fucking moron
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The fediverse is far more open to the idea of being a "marketplace of ideas" .
That is what Reddit was before Spez got greedy and abandoned the liberal ideas that made Reddit great when Aaron Swartz was around.
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TBH I've seen (and engaged in) plenty of the latter on Lemmy too. The only place where I've seen such behavior actually banned was themotte
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Literally just re-uninstalled Reddit because some neanderthal (probably an insult to neanderthals) couldn't even argue properly without putting words in my mouth I never said or implied
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At least the circlejerking was brought here intact...
Just wait. The only reason why Lemmy is more polite is because it's smaller. I think that attitude comes with the territory, unfortunately. If you want to have a less toxic community, the first thing you need to do is get rid of the downvote button. Downvotes are inherently toxic. Lemmy is actually worse than reddit in this regard, because you can actually see the ratio of upvotes to downvotes. So, even if your comment has a high score, you can still feel shitty knowing that X number of people downvoted it.
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Aren't a ton of Lemmy users from Reddit? That being said, I've had more positive interactions here than on Reddit, but I haven't been on Lemmy that long.
The subset of users that switched to Lemmy is smart enough to get over the "select an instance"-hurdle and fine with being on a smaller website with less content. This results in a different kind of interaction. Poeple here seem to still remember that there are actually living people behind those usernames. If Lemmy keeps growing there will be more chances to have the proper "go fuck yourself"-kind of interaction we are used to.
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Personally I liked many of the opposite views and some conflict. Made for entertaining discussions at times even if I don't agree with it.
When everyone has the same opinion, not much left to discuss.
With that short lived bit of nostalgia for cringy old meme formats I think it's also safe to say that this platform skews old.
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I can't not agree with this.
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