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A pilot died during a gender reveal party when his plane crashed after dispersing pink smoke in the air above the gathering.

A video posted online shows a couple standing in front of a large lit up sign reading “Oh Baby,” before capturing the pilot flying low to the ground while releasing the pink smoke above the pair in San Pedro, Mexico. Just after flying over the couple, the plane’s left wing quickly snapped and the aircraft spiraled out of control and crashed in a nearby field.

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[–] Aidinthel@reddthat.com 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many times does God need to tell us that gender reveal parties have to stop before we listen?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i don't believe they are a real thing

[–] Moc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Tatters@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They dont know what happened? That pilot used a crop dusting plane to do a strafing run, realized he was headed nose first into some palm trees and yanked up on the yoke. He sheered the wing straight off his plane and died for the mistake.

[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sure that’s what caused the crash, but why did the wing snap? It didn’t look like the plane was in overspeed, and the airframe should be able to sustain any input maneuvers under normal flight conditions.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the airframe should be able to sustain any input maneuvers under normal flight conditions.

Let me frame it this way for you, my car's pretty reliable, but at high speeds I know that making a hard turn will end in catastrophe.

[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

making a hard turn will end in catastrophe

Sure, if you end up smashing into a tree. But it’s not like the wheels are going to snap off or the body buckle. If you’re on an empty airfield tarmac, it would be perfectly safe. On some cars there will be a risk of rollover, but designing cars that tip over when extreme input is applied is itself fairly controversial.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Sure, if you end up smashing into a tree. But it’s not like the wheels are going to snap off or the body buckle. If you’re on an empty airfield tarmac, it would be perfectly safe. On some cars there will be a risk of rollover, but designing cars that tip over when extreme input is applied is itself fairly controversial.

Oh God, please tell me you don't have a driver's license if you think any of this bad logic is a reasonable rebuttle.

[–] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Ok, let's forget the trees or any scenery for a moment. Let's say they don't exist, and that the plane is in an open, and empty area.

Planes are very finicky things. If the angles aren't right, it won't be able to fly. If you look at an airplane wing from the side, they are normally shaped a bit like long tear drops. After gaining it's initial momentum, the plane is kind of lifted by gliding through the air pressure. Plane wings are shaped that way to make the air move faster over the top of the wing. When the air moves faster, the pressure of that air decreases. So the pressure on the top of the wing is less than the pressure on the bottom of the wing. The difference in pressure creates a force on the wing that lifts the wing of the plane up into the air.

Airplanes are full of many things that are pretty complex. If we changed airplanes to be able to "roll over" for safety, we would lose that special system that allows the lift to happen.

Since planes are so finicky, planes with different purposes will usually be built differently. Since they still have to be able to fly, adding one thing may sometimes means removing another thing. Those particular planes were never meant to make those maneuvers, and they weren't built to handle them. It would be like upgrading a car's engine block to be turbo-powered, then keeping the same coolant system and expecting it to run fine. You have to respect the equipment and follow guidelines, as they are usually there for a good reason.

The idea was that everyone would know not to do that (via their pilot licence), and that it would be ok to have specialty planes. The plane was never meant to move that way, and the wings weren't fortified for those angles.

[–] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

This is a crop duster, not a stunt plane. It's not designed for that maneuver, so if you try, wings snap off. Iow, not normal flight conditions. Unlike civil engineers, you can't slap a factor of safety of 10 on an airplane. It won't fly.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I think you’re underestimating his speed and overestimating the strength of airframes. Most planes can easily get to speeds where inputs can exceed structural limits under normal flight conditions. There is even a V speed for it, Va or maneuvering speed. A quick google suggests that Vne, or “never exceed” for the PA 25 is -35 knots and Va is 104 knots. Now I have never flown one and I haven’t completely verified them but they sound about right. At 104 knots he can over G the airframe. Assuming a standard safety factor of 1.5 and a g limit of 3.8 (basic assumptions but I can’t find actual data for the PA25) and at max weight you can expect severe structural damage with full control inputs at 127 knots. If he wasn’t carrying that much and was lighter that number comes down as well. Finally, there’s the fact that it was a crop duster in Mexico so who knows what the maintenance history and actual condition of that wing spar was. Either way, even if it was in top form hitting 130 knots on a show boating low pass isn’t that crazy.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The pilot has probably been beating on the airframe like this for years.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Gender reveal parties were a mistake. The woman who started them had miscarried every time before, so was celebrating every little milestone of her pregnancy, but people took the idea and started using it as excuse to show off and try to one up other folks.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't mind people doing whatever they want but a lot of them are just not to my liking, but neither are Tupperware parties...I just don't care about either.

A lot of these end up as headlines though, I feel that those involved would likely be headline regardless. In this case it is just unfortunate.

[–] Aliendelarge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Tupperware also carries the stench of MLM with it. Too bad since its generally pretty solid stuff. Waiting to find out the gender until birth was an interesting social experiment for my wife and I. It bothered some people more than we expected and others less.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That’s like a prompt to a twilight zone episode. 😬

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Equivalent exchange. You’ve got to take a life to make a life.

[–] whataboutshutup@discuss.online 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine learning in your teens that your gender is a pink-smoking plane crash claiming a pilot.

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember the good days when things were simple, when you were either an Apache Attack helicopter or you weren't.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Damn I have an Uncle that thinks that joke is still hilarious. Absolute lead-poisoned dumbass.

[–] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, gender is a separate thing now.

[–] BeefDaddySupreme@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Nice click bait picture The Hill

[–] Random_user@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Was just about to point out they could have taken any of the 1000 frames from the video of the actual incident but instead chose a stock photo.

[–] computergeek125@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They also had an option to use a stock photo of the actual aircraft type on the ground.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Why is the image for this article a passenger jet plane? The actual airplane that folded like paper mache was a tiny single engine propeller plane

[–] Tatters@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assume that the jet pictured in the original post has nothing to do with the plane that crashed?

[–] billygoat@catata.fish 3 points 1 year ago

You would be correct. It was a single prop.

[–] itsdavetho@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It was a boy.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

You've gotta be fuckin kidding me.

[–] Vupperware@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It much to report on here… until you can explain why the wing snapped.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like the wing snapped because he pulled up too hard with a plane that wasn’t designed for it.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

my guess is it wasn't maintained properly as well. that wing definitely failed because he pulled up harder than he should have, but it may have been due to material fatigue as a contributing factor.

either way... the pilot is probably the guy that maintains it.

[–] MONDY@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Is there a place to see how many lives gender reveal parties have claimed?

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

oh great, gender reveal plane crashes

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Jesus, is that made out of paper mache?

Jesus: sí.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

That plane looked like it was made out of cardboard and duct-tape.

[–] 3ntranced@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you look at the ground, an air cannon blasts smoke and confetti right below where the wing snaps upward.

My guess is there was already upward force on the wing when doing the low pass, and the air cannon burst collided with the airstream.

The timing is too perfect for it to be unrelated. Fuck your babies gender.

[–] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Idk that air cannons at a different angle. My money is on poor aircraft maintenance coupled with pilot error of pulling up too quickly with too much speed.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

C'mon. The wings fell off the airplane. Pilot obviously spent years beating the shit out of the airframe and the wingbox finally failed.

[–] Joyboy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Legit looked like that plane was something the wright brothers made