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[–] nope@jlai.lu 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Probably not the first degoogled android, but maybe one of the first 'just works' degoogled phones Edit: yep I misread but still true

[–] Carobu@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lineage OS by default comes DeGoogled and works just fine. Both phones I ran it on had absolutely no issues. It must be more niche than I thought though because no one here is talking about it.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At no point does the article claim it is "the first degoogled android".

[–] Captain_Ender@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

I see the confusion by op. It says privacy-first, as in privacy is its core function not a first in its class. I think they just misread the title.

[–] Helmic@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I have some deeply tech unsavvy people in my life who will fuck up their phone trying to "uninstall Google" - and thus disable all their keyboards - that would probably benefit from a "just works" degoogled phone. I love GrapheneOS, but it assumes the end user is the sort of dork that is capable of installing it in the first place - people who struggle with tech deserve privacy too.

[–] Anti_Weeb_Penguin@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I built that ROM back in june and honestly, i don't recommend it, the interface and apps are just terrible and they take almost a year to release a new android version.

[–] bug@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do they at least provide regular security updates?

[–] Anti_Weeb_Penguin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, as long as Lineage does which is better than other ROMs.

[–] bug@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

No problem then!

[–] ddkman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So basically this is ANOTHER company trying to resell Linage-s work? This is getting laughable now.

It's just a Lineage based ROM like crDroid.

[–] sebi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bug@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Ah, well that's the important thing. Actual new major versions are mainly just bells and whistles these days!

[–] sebi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

yes, the apps are mediocre, but there are alternatives. (Also, its the only ROM with official support for my device)

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


First up, instead of the usual Google gubbins, replete with the adtech giant’s commercial trackers, /e/OS users will find a set of native open source apps and services Murena has developed to replace all that.

Murena also bakes a set of “advanced” private browsing features into the OS, including a tracker blocker; a location faking option; and the ability to hide your IP address.

On the flip side, when all the switches are set to off each one displays a one-word warning — either “Vulnerable” or “Exposed” — giving users a visible nudge to think about how their online activity might be compromising their privacy.

And this tension between locking everything down (to achieve perfect privacy) and opening select hatches (to boost utility) remains the core confounder for such an ambitious against-the-mainstream-grain tech endeavour.

The wider question is how much highly motivated demand there is to put in the small amount of extra effort required (and possibly also shell out some additional cost) to tread an alternative, less feature-rich path — if, at the end of the day, all you get for your effect is a product that won’t look or feel especially thrilling.

So its conviction of where the mobile puck is headed must be that there’s a growing pool of mainstream Android users with an appetite for iOS-style ‘low friction’ privacy delivered outside Apple’s walled ecosystem.


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[–] southernwolf@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago
[–] PrincessZelda@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I install/update my bank apps, and pay with my phone? That's the bare minimum I need to switch to a deGoogled OS.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Solely depends on your banking app. If it requires Safety Net, you need to flash gapps on any ROM, or have a microg preflashed version.

Btw, i only need to hold my MasterCard on the card read and enter a pin if over 70 CHF. This isn't common?

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[–] sebi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The OS includes microG which has a SafetyNet implementation

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago

So i guess, yes?

[–] ddkman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

A safetynet impl. that will fail your device on even the most basic integrity check. You don't need safetynet """Implementation""" you need a safetynet pass

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Just because contactless exists doesn't mean that you wouldn't want the ability to pay with your phone.

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope more newer phones get supported by them.

I have a samsung galaxy s23 and I need to scratch my de-google / custom rom itch.

[–] EvokerKing@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure graphene os has been doing this for a while now, check them out

[–] EDRBd97kWbT2KzK@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

GrapheneOS only supports modern pixels though. LineageOS is the one with the largest compatibility with both modern and older devices.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Have been using it for a while on my Fairphone 3, just works nicely :)

[–] codenul@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Been using it on my Oneplus 6t and been liking it so far

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 6 points 1 year ago

I'm using iode which is very similar and I'm happy with it. It's a good compromise. It doesn't have any google apps, have some additional security and privacy protections and 'it just works'.

[–] MotherFlocker@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago

Wish I could try it out but couldn't successfully install it on my device. So I'm sticking with LOS. LOS is already good enough (if not great) as it's stable and gets update more often.

[–] JakoDel@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

a modified lineageOS, craaaazy innovation

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

We really need a compelling alternative to the Play Store, both as users and developers.