Gaming

the time in which the TV is on but users aren’t doing anything is valuable

Are they going to pay for the increased power to do so?

Ads have funded a lot of content in the past. I don't mean just in the Internet era, but in the TV era and the radio era and the newspaper era. We're talking centuries.

Unless you're gonna get people to pay for your content, which can create difficulties, attaching it to ads can be a way to pay for that content.

Now, all that being said, that isn't to say that one needs to want to choose ads or needs to want to choose ads in all contexts or can want unlimited ads. I'd generally rather pay for something up front. Let's say that it takes $10 to produce a piece of content. For ads to make sense, it has to make the average user ultimately spend at least $10 more on some advertised product than they otherwise would have, or it wouldn't make sense for the advertiser to give the content creator $10. I'd just as soon spend $10 on the content directly instead and not watch the ads. Ultimately, the average user has to pay at least as much under an ad regime as if they just paid for the content up front, and doesn't have to deal with the overhead of me staring at ads.

But for that to work, the content provider has to be able to actually get people to pay for whatever content they're putting out. If it gets pirated, or people disproportionately weight the cost of that up-front payment, or people are worried about the security of their transaction, or what-have-you, then the content provider is gonna fall back to being paid in ads.

Cars have cell radios now and transfer data about you using those.

I would imagine that as long as it can generate enough of a return for it to make financial sense, manufacturers of other devices might start doing so at some point.

He's right, but I don't like the framing of TV companies are going to spy on you anyway so we're the best option since you get a free TV. I would like the option to not be spied on. In fact I'm choosing that by not having a TV to begin with.

isnt that why if you value privacy (or customization) youre supposed to not plug the tv to the internet and use your prefered streaming setup connected over hdmi. its ultimately a self inflicted problem of people using the built in stuff rather than take the time and setup an actual setup (that would stay the same between tvs as long as said device doesnt die on you)

then convenience is sold, especially if its free, then your data is going to be sold with it.

Already a thing for Roku/Android TVs.

Home entertainment is such a closed system that all these companies are just beta testing shitty ideas for each other. Eventually they all do the same thing as long as any backlash was neither too destructive to revenue nor sustained. See endless streaming services price hikes, account sharing lockdowns, or the fact that you just can't buy dumb TVs anymore.

Should be able to with Roku since they are also Android based. I've found a bunch of things to side load or modify any TV running on Android or based on Android.... Which only sucks because I was looking for that kind of stuff for my shit-ass Samsung TV which isn't Android based 😩

I'm just expecting ads with any "start" button press.

Press start ADS!

Change equipment by pressing start to access the menu. ADS!

Press start to conti ADS!!!

Could it not be turned off when it's not needed (I.E. The game is unpaused.)

And what specifically do you mean by overlay?

Monitors and TVs have been able to overlay some interface elements over the HDMI input since forever. I have never heard of an overlay degrading quality but maybe there are some poor implementations.