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Microsoft won't update your Windows 11 PC if it has these apps (www.xda-developers.com)

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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 112 points 3 months ago

ConisioAdmin.exe (Solidworks PDM)

EaseUS Disk Copy.exe (EaseUS Disk Copy Application)

ep_dwm.exe (ExplorerPatcher) Included since 22H2

iCloudServices.exe (iCloud files shared in Explorer via WhatsApp) from 23H2

RadeonSoftware.exe (AMD GPU perf settings) from23H2

StartAllBackCfg.exe (StartAllBack) Included since 22H2

Multi-mon + Copilot (Microsoft)

MergeSdb (Microsoft)

Intel IntcOED.sys (Intel)

Intel IntcAudioBus.sys (Intel) (%WinDir%\System32\drivers\IntcAudioBus.sys)

Realtek 8192su Wireless USB 2.0 Adapter (Realtek) (%WinDir%\System32\drivers\RTL8192su.sys)

[-] ITeeTechMonkey@lemmy.world 77 points 3 months ago

I love that Microsoft has Microsoft developed applications on its update/upgrade block list.

It's a good reminder that companies arent as cohesive as most people think especially when they are as large as Microsoft.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

I remember having to reverse engineer an API owned by my own company because our team was too far removed from theirs. The whole situation was crazy

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Maaaan, I can't even get communication with my shipping department about whether or not they shipped it trashed film rolls that are on hold.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago

Thanks, I can't access this site, because it says I have to diseable my adblocker, my adblocker is off on this site, but I don't feel like deactivating the other protections. Suspicious if a page requires you to enter naked. in Make use of the same thing happens, with the same reasons for not trusting.

Site test

[-] Spectacle8011@lemmy.comfysnug.space 3 points 2 months ago

Just disable Javascript; it will load fine.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

It's diseabled, it's a page problem, not mine. The page is a open security door, because of a bad webmaster.

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[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Is any of those free, small and not invasive so I can install it just to prevent an update to Winshit 11?

[-] B0rax@feddit.de 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The iCloud thing is free. I think it adds a system tray application but I don’t think it does anything if you don’t log in with an Apple account.

The Realtek Wireless driver should also do nothing if you don’t have the device.

[-] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

I use AtlasOS tweaks with Windows 10 and my system never suggests an upgrade to Windows 11 although updates and MS Store works fine. AtlasOS is the thing that make Windows at least usable.

[-] MashedTech@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

They're blocking the fucking GPU SOFTWARE? WHAT THE FUUCK?

[-] jon@lemdro.id 6 points 2 months ago

What, the generic Windows driver wasn't good enough...?

[-] DanVctr@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

ExplorerPatcher wouldn't be necessary if they actually stopped removing basic features from Explorer that have existed for over a decade

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

I'm still on Win 10. What does ExplorerPatcher do?

[-] DanVctr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

For me personally, I like having my taskbar at the top of the screen. MS removed the ability to change the position of the taskbar in W11. It does a lot more than that, potentially giving you an almost XP like experience if that's what you want.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 44 points 3 months ago

Those are some interesting choices of apps. Considering some of those sound like professional tools (SOLIDWORKS pdm) or basic drivers/tools (Radeon software, Intel drivers), they may be about to drive more people away from their OS.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 46 points 3 months ago

You mean the opposite. Booting up your work PC and finding out you can't do your job because Windows decide to update and break all your software is quite rage-inducing.

[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 16 points 3 months ago

Considering all the Bloatware that Microsoft has been pumping out lately (don’t get me started or Outlook), this may be a good excuse to get a Radeon Graphics Card.

If I can be guaranteed that installing this software will prevent having to deal with CoPilot, I would jump on that straight away.

[-] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

Bad news, I have an AMD card and still got the copilot button. It's probably a very specific version of the software that is an issue.

[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 points 3 months ago

For what it's worth, other Start menu replacements like Start11 and Open Shell's menu aren't on the list. This might genuinely be a compatibility-related blocker given that iCloud, EaseUS and certain drivers are also on the list.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Two more Linux converts

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 21 points 3 months ago

Next wave of new Linux users incoming

[-] electricprism@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

5% please

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

soon, hopefully. i actually noticed that people tend to react much less surprised to a computer running linux nowadays, which seems like a good sign to me.

[-] doctortofu@reddthat.com 20 points 3 months ago

Microsoft, probably: "StartAllBack? Nope, ya little twit, you will use our start menu AND YOU WILL LIKE IT! No installing any of that crap on ~~your~~ our computer!"

[+] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] fernandofig@reddthat.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Apparently it's not that the software is broken, it's that the software being installed breaks Windows Update. There are reports from people that uninstalling StartAllBack, updating the OS, then reinstalling it back (renaming the install executable first) works fine.

As much as being affected by this is frustrating to me (though this is all happening still on the dev channel, so for me it'll be a problem for the future), I understand Microsoft's rationale here. They can't be expected to support every third-party tool that can break the OS, and it's known that both ExplorerPatcher and StartAllBack relies on many hacks using undocumented APIs to work.

In the last few decades that I've been using Windows, I never felt compelled to use shell replacements or customizations - the default experience always worked fine for me with a few tweaks. So, if anything I'm more frustrated at Microsoft that I'm forced to use StartAllBack, because MS went and removed options from the shell that existed forever and always took for granted, and then some.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

They can't be expected to support every third-party tool that can break the OS

They don't have to support it. They just have to let it break. It is your PC. They can issue notifications to their system and add these apps to their troubleshooter as possible conflicts.

What they abso-fucking-lutely cannot be allowed to do is to decide what software you're allowed to run on your PC. This is a dangerous precedent and a slippery slope.

[-] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 months ago

The enshitification of Windows compared to macOS has really accelerated a lot recently it seems. I work with both daily and it is weird and irritating how much extra crap keeps getting hurled willy-nilly into Windows updates this last year.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

I mean it's been happening for the last 5-10 years. Did you notice Windows is free now? You know what that means.

[-] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

True, just observing that it's happening much faster now than it did for the preceding iteration of Windows.

[-] gortbrown@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 months ago

Imagine being so against people using certain programs on their computer that you straight up deny them software updates.

[-] MashedTech@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Linux: WE NEVER BREAK USER SPACE! Windows: Oops... The only thing we break is userspace.

[-] 1984 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

An operating system should never call home what apps the user has or what the user is doing. That's an extreme invasion of privacy.

Why do people still use this? Everyone should immediately take a Linux course and stop being suckers.

[-] B0rax@feddit.de 28 points 3 months ago

I don’t think it calls home about that. It just looks if there are any „incompatible“ applications installed and blocks the update if it finds any. I guess the goal is to not break anything.

But sure, you can spin it into a “fuck Microsoft” narrative.

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 8 points 3 months ago

It may be just a usability measure then.

But fuck microsoft.

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[-] 0oWow@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Do you pinky promise?

[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Hey, microcrap, just start over

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