The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
Then you shouldn’t worry about being monitored.
I’m not the enemy, but my speed is checked by radar, my license plate read by automatic scanners cameras on police cars, my internet activity monitored for DMCA violations, etc.
Join the rest of us, you don’t deserve to be an exception.
Damn I want you commenting during that period!
"But who will watch the Watchers?"
Murphy said “certain politicians” are trying to “pit the community against the Police Department,” and are “spinning a tragic situation into a political game for their reelections.”
“We are not your enemy,” he said. “We only care about the well-being of this city and its safety.”
Funny how listening to constituents is a "political game," and making sure our civic employees aren't murdering people or destroying lives makes us "enemies."
The message comes through the static after all.
"we only care about the well being of this city and it's safety, now leave us alone, and we don't want you bastards looking over our shoulder all the time regardless of how often we prove this not to be the case"
You forgot Qualified Immunity! These people are literally immune to prosecution of crimes they decided to commit while working...
You forgot Qualified Immunity! These people are literally immune to prosecution of crimes they decided to commit while working…
I am anti QI, and as far as my views on police I think my profile makes it clear, but to be fair it protects against civil cases, not criminal.
When we demanded cops wear body cameras, police union said it would be a technical challenge.
But then police video came out and all the bs they do was brought to the public.
Dude no it’s that you keep robbing people at gunpoint and murdering them.
Anybody else curious about his tattoos?
I am guessing a swastikas might be hidden under that shirt.
I thought you shouldn't be afraid if you have nothing to hide?
If you're not a criminal you have nothing to be afraid of.
As he sat there smashing the Xbox me and my siblings got for Christmas with a big hammer, my dad said the same thing:
I am not your enemy. I only care about your well-being and I’m doing this to help you.
These people are criminal psychopaths and don’t deserve any civility or freedom in public life.
"Yes, you are."
It's so childish and transparent. If there's nothing untoward happening, then this should not be an issue.
The trouble is police seem to like to think about it as some kind of weird privacy issue, and somehow getting in the way if functioning. It is not. Police are public servants who oftentimes have forgotten their role as such. If they can't function as a public service with public oversight, they should find a different line of work more suited to them.
"We only care about the well-being of [property in] this city and its safety [for those with wealth, influence and/or the right shade of skin].”
Corrected it.
“We are not your enemy" is totally something the enemy would say. Fuck these pigs.
At least when it's in response to oversight. When the task is not being an enemy, it should be real easy to say, "we are not your enemy" and then accept the oversight with open arms. It's extra help towards the same goal, right? Oversight should be welcome.
Yeah if they weren’t the enemy and were facing accusations like they are on the job they’d welcome it. Like I hate being surveilled too, even at work. But when someone might get hurt I want my actions and everything visible and if people were arguing differently about events I’d welcome cameras involved.
Hell, these are people saying they’re running up against criminals in the act all the time, who want to prove that these people are committing crimes in front of them, and they’re saying that they don’t want cameras to show their perspective on the job.
Yes exactly, nothing to hide.
You dont get to choose whose enemy you are.
Sure you do in most cases. You can make all the enemies your heart desires. The cops sure do
Bullshit you are not only our enemy your enabling police to hurt us. Fuck you.
They should just comply.
Why don't they just comply? Don't they want to comply with the law that was created by the people voted into power by the people the police are supposed to protect?
"qUaLiFiEd ImMuNitY!!1!"
"Stop resisting."