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This one problem is why Democrats must replace Biden at the convention (thehill.com)

submitted 4 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This article was written by Douglas Mackinnon. A political consultant who has written for multiple publications including Fox News. Here's a quick list of article headlines he's written there: "Latest wave of wokeness to hit west point reveals one simple solution", "Woke left will erase american history unless we stop them", "A 'Star Wars' story: How can I get a job as a woke ‘activist’?", "We must speak to save our founding fathers from the woke left", "Bidens nasa launches new mission to planet woke", and "Moms for liberty shows spirit that would make the founding fathers proud".

If these article headlines haven't made it obvious, this man is not worth paying attention to. Talk about biden being a bad candidate all you want but don't use pieces of shit who are focused on "wokeness" to hide their idiocy and bigotry.

Also, biden is not going to be replaced at the convention. Not gonna happen. But if you're putting forward the idea of it happening, you better bring with it an idea of who should replace him.

This article is shit, return2ozma, you can do better.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

The only way Biden (or Trump, for that matter) will be replaced at their conventions will be if God exercises His Ultimate Veto on either one of them.

[+] return2ozma@lemmy.world -45 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I mean it's too easy now. Anything critical at all about Biden brings out Blue MAGA to defend Biden. Read it, downvote it if you hate it. It's all interaction and discussion. Enjoy.

[–] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

“Blue MAGA” - what does that even mean? MAGA isn’t even a cogent ideology, it’s a fawning cult of personality acting in lockstep and built up around a single man – in what way is there any equivalent on the left? Ask twelve liberals for an opinion on something and you’ll get fifteen different answers.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, not "anything critical". Just the outright bullshit.

I think the problem is the reverse, you actually like everything critical, regardless of its quality. Even the outright propaganda, so long as it attacks Biden, you seem inclined to view it favorably.

Any side can make bullshit, and the bullshit you like is no better than the bullshit you don't like. This is what people mean when they say you can do better. Start trying to see through the bullshit of the things you like, too.

For instance, I like Biden alright, but if someone were to criticize his support for Israel, or not supporting Ukraine more while he had the chance, I could agree with that. It's not about sides, it's about the fairness of the proposal. Unless you just want to be an extremist, that thinks nothing really matters so long as you get your way.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Now this is some serious BS here. "Blue MAGA?" Nonsense.

You're being called out for posting biased bullshit pushed by a Team Red operative. Team Red is counting on people like you to push the bullshit narrative that Biden needs to be kicked out of the party to convince just enough of us to stay home or vote Third Party in November so that Team Pepe can steal the fucking election and run roughshod over Gays, Minorities, Transgender people, and yes, even Palestinians and other Muslims on a level that would make fucking Netanyahu blush, and they count on useful idiots on our side of the political aisle to eat up the bullshit they're generating to make that happen. I'm here to point out that your post is chock full of bullshitium provided to you by actual MAGA, and I'm not the only one here to point that bullshitium out.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago

“Far left”

✔️Foster an image of an equally radical group

By:

Douglas MacKinnon, a political and communications consultant, was a writer in the White House for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and former special assistant for policy and communications at the Pentagon during the last three years of the Bush administration.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think even replacing Biden would get the anti-genocide people to vote for him; If Biden doesn't end all support for Israel, no promise to do so by a dem-backed candidate is going to be taken seriously.

Trying to pressure the DNC to replace Biden makes more sense than trying to shame voters, but it's still less effective than pressuring Biden to end the genocide.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So, you want us to overturn the results of the voting just because you don't like the guy we voted for?

Hm. Funny.

I'll remind everyone, dems actually believe in democracy.

[–] Eggyhead@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

I voted for him too but guess what…

Tap for spoiler

I never liked him.

[+] Observer1199@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No. Biden is not far-right elsewhere in the world. Centre-right, maybe, but not far-right. And don't forget in the rest of the world, Team Pepe is ultra-mega-bat-shit-insane-giga-right with a healthy dose of Sedition (Confederate Flags) and Genocide (actual Genocide, even, in the form of Nazi flags) added in for good measure.

Here's a fact for you. 26% of Americans identify as Liberal, compared to 34% Conservative and 40% Moderate. And that 26% is ALL liberals, not just the most progressive ones. So, you can imagine you are a tiny number compared to the rest of the voters in the USA. You know this. I know this. And pro-tip: Biden knows this. He really, really wants have a friendly congress his second 2 years, and win another 4 year term, so he can't exactly cow-tow to you folks. He tries to enact Euro-Socialism here in the States, and especially if he gets it wrong, that 74% is going to spank him hard in the next election. Given that he can't trust you folks go actually get out and vote, he's looking at the numbers and deciding that he's going to be careful enacting a Liberal agenda, taking it slowly, and allowing it a chance to work and be seen as useful by the 74% of Americans who do NOT describe themselves as Liberal, before moving to the next phase. You want him to change? Well, you're going to have to convince some of that 74% that does not identify as Liberal to actually identify as liberal, and turn out.

Second pro-tip: If you do the stupid thing and buy this BS that Biden's a far right President that doesn't deserve your vote, then you'll get an actual-far-right President and you may never get to vote again. Have a read at Project 2025 and know that's your future if Biden loses.

[+] Observer1199@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

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[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

...much closer to being far-right than he is to being left...

How else am I supposed to read those words? And 'manifesto'? Hey, pal, I'm just pointing out you are wrong so that voters don't get this bullshit in their minds and think that Biden's some ultra-right-wing MAGAt no better than Trump and decide to stay home. And guess what! I'm going to keep doing that!

Here's a list of things Biden has accomplished in his first term:

Overtime guarantees for workers earning less than 55k (actually in progress, but slated for release soon as of 2024-04-11)
Access to Over the Counter Birth Control.
Funding provided to schools to deal with gun safety issues.
Funding for green energy, which has pushed it to the #2 source of energy in the US.
Directed Federal Reserve to draft a new anti-redlining guideline for home loans in the USA.
Cut overdraft fees from punitive $30 to $40 levels to much saner $3 to 14. ** Working on cutting credit card late payment fees.
Revised the Electoral Count Act to increase the threshold to object to vote counts, clarify the VP's role is strictly ceremonial, outlaw the tricks Trump tried to use to hold onto power, and make transition automatic and required.
Funding for Green Agriculture to ensure that farming practices are kind to the environment.
Funding for small farms, to blunt the Big Ag monopoly.
Potential move of MJ to Schedule III (from Schedule I).
Reining in the cost of college debt by penalising colleges that generate too much debt relative to the potential income of the field.
Reducing our dependency on Taiwan for microchips by onshoring IC production here in the USA, offsetting Trump's tariffs by making it possible to actually buy a microchip powered device that was built in the USA.
Encouraging telemedicine prescriptions of medications.
Protecting unions from union-busting activities.
Invested 1.2b USD in infrastructure projects to repair and extend our nation's infrastructure.
Holding airlines accountable for late or cancelled flights by mandating they compensate their passengers.

None of that looks right-wing to me,. and while Biden has invested in our military and pushed oil production in the USA to record levels, that doesn't counter the above list of things Biden has done. So forgive me if I just point out that he's NOT far-right, at home or overseas. At most, he's centre-right outside the USA, and honestly, like we both said, the USA is filled with right-leaning politicians and voters, so he's definitely the better choice, and frankly, the only reasonable choice for a nation where 74% say they are NOT Liberal.

So thanks for agreeing with me that he's by far the better choice. I'm glad you said that, though I wish you'd said that on your original post. There's too much bullshit floating around saying BIDEN BAD~!, and the chances are that if we let that stuff go un-challenged, we'll get REAL bad in 2025.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

I have this nice bridge y’all could buy…

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So, just to clarify, should we only be posting right wing anti-democracy articles in this community now? Or is it just this one post?

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

It’s a small group of people posting in bad faith from multiple accounts.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

“Denial” isn’t just a river which runs through Egypt — its banks also surround the Biden White House, submerging it in a pool of fantasy.

Last November, Axelrod —a senior adviser to President Barack Obama and now an analyst for CNN — suggested that Biden may want to drop out of the race.

Over at the New York Times on Feb. 16, Klein — before taking it back after being subject to massive criticism from the left and after Biden’s State of the Union Address — released an audio opinion essay titled “Democrats Have a Better Option than Biden.” It’s a very logical and powerful piece.

To be sure, almost all the arguments — Alexrod’s and Klein’s included — were folded around the joint worries about Biden’s advanced age as well as his perceived cognitive issues.

To be sure, the Democrats who do feel Biden is now a liability to holding the White House are deeply concerned about Trump’s poll numbers, his massive base, his increased fundraising and his more locked-down, disciplined campaign.

These “uncommitted” results came after far-left activists pushed voters to refrain from voting for Biden in protest over a host of issues — most especially his handling of the war between Israel and Hamas.

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