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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The thing is, a lot of the people voting for RFK are low information voters, and low information voters don’t pay attention to endorsements. They’re checked out.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

My mother is planning to vote Republican this year because she "doesn't pay attention to that political crap"

I keep telling her that she really needs to pay attention because she's on disability, gets medical benefits from the government, food stamps, etc.

Yet she still refuses to get informed.

I've tried talking to her about politics, I've tried showing her what Republicans are doing, I've tried asking her what she'd do if her benefits went away, etc. all she does is get angry about trying to bring politics into a discussion.

At this point I've told her that if the worst should happen with Republicans getting their way and she loses her benefits I don't plan to help her at all. She'll be at the mercy of her own decisions. (Something her and my dad have said to my siblings and I a lot growing up.)

Edit: She votes Republican straight down the ballot every single election. And for positions where people don't declare their political party she doesn't vote for those positions because she, "Won't trust a rat who won't say who they are."

Edit 2: I accidentally a word or 2.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

She votes Republican straight down the ballot every single election. And for positions where people don't declare their political party she doesn't vote for those positions because she, "Won't trust a rat who won't say who they are."

"Doesn't pay attention to that political crap"

So that was a fucking lie.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 months ago

Exactly

She's straight up got the Republican brain worms bad.

[–] Joxnir@kbin.social 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At this point I’ve told her that if the worst should happen with Republicans getting their way and she loses her benefits I don’t plan to help her at all. She’ll be at the mercy of her own decisions. (Something her and my dad have said to my siblings and I a lot growing up.)

I'm curious, what did she say to that?

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"They wouldn't do that."

You know, the thing they constantly say they're going to do.

She doesn't even consider it a possibility so me saying that I won't help her if it happens is a non-thing.

And if you're curious, her opinion on the repeal of abortion rights is also shitty. "I live in a state where I can get one so it's not an issue."

And when I mention that it's a possibility that if Republicans gain power they'll pass a national ban she again shoots it down as something that they wouldn't do.

[–] Joxnir@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

Sounds like she's in denial. Does she also change the subject when losing an argument?

Anyways, I think you have better chances addressing her denialism than to argue any other political point. As long as someone won't argue in good faith, all other arguements and debates become pointless diversions.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A big public noisy endorsement might reach a few though. Not all, but some, and every bit helps

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I’ll take it, but I feel like this will only shave off fractions off a percent.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If the election is as close as it was in 2020, that's enough to swing the outcome.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

True, although that election didn’t have a 3rd party candidate polling as high as this one. Biden is going to have to eat more into RFK.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Many are but not all. He’s got some devoted followers

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Correct. He has some legit fans, but most of his polling numbers are from people who are not really tuned.

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They also are likely attaching value to the name Kennedy though, and so other Kennedys may have outsized influence with them.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, but they’re not watching the political news and listening to anything the candidates, or their families are saying.

They just see “Trump, Biden, or Kennedy” on a ballot, and think “Trump and Biden aren’t my favorites, but I think I remember the Kennedys being cool once upon a time.”

[–] gnate@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

A lot of them are Roganites. Not checked out, bit low quality information.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The show of force will send the clearest signal yet that America’s most storied Democratic family is deeply fearful that one of its own could tip the 2024 election to former President Donald J. Trump, and hopes to use its influence to try to stop him.

Many family members have previously expressed strong disapproval of Mr. Kennedy’s candidacy, voicing anguish about his promotion of conspiracy theories and confusion about why he is challenging a Democratic president they admire.

“We can say today, with no less urgency, that our rights and freedoms are once again in peril,” Kerry Kennedy is expected to say, according to excerpts from her speech shared by the Biden campaign.

The family has telegraphed its intentions: Last month, members visited Mr. Biden at the White House for St. Patrick’s Day, sharing a photo of him with a large group of them.

Democrats have already watched the collapse of one third-party effort they had nervously eyed: The centrist group No Labels, after seeking to set up a moderate politician with national recognition as an alternative to Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump, announced early this month that it would abandon its attempt.

He has expressed liberal views on abortion, the environment and income inequality, but has also promoted false theories about the safety of vaccines and pushed arguments that are more common on the right.


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[–] flicker@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I gotta be honest. I'm relatively plugged in and I keep straight up forgetting RFK Jr. is even a thing.

The same way I keep forgetting the Tiger King is running for president.