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This is just a short, easy-to-read paper I keep in my bookmarks and go back to occasionally. It explores, qualitatively, the various outcomes that contact with alien intelligence might have. I think it's a really cool 25-page exploration of possibilities that are fun to think about. Some choice quotes:

ETI (extraterrestrial intelligence) might attack us not out of selfishness but instead out of a universalist desire to make the galaxy a better place.

perhaps ETI make contact with Earth to welcome us into the Galactic Club but only after we complete a set of required bureaucratic tasks

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They may be interested in incorporating us into their civilization so they can sell us their products, keep us as pets, or have us mine raw materials for them.

if ETI place intrinsic value on lives, then perhaps they could bring about more lives by destroying us and using our resources more efficiently for other lives

My favourite section is the "unintentional harm" outcomes, which suggests the possibility that they just might squish us by accident.

One non-biological physical hazard that we could face from direct contact with ETI is unintentional mechanical harm. For example, ETI might accidentally crush us while attempting an unrelated maneuver.

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Can't for the life of me find where I first heard of this, but I just wanted to share it for being fun and fairly silly yet still officially worked on by NASA.

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[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

This has always been a favorite topic of mine to speculate on. I've especially wondered what a hypothetical contact event would mean on the later development of leftist thought and praxis. I'd think that for any political/economic tradition it would be the black swan event to end all black swan events.

[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

Ultimately, I think leftist thought might be the most immune to the culture thought of aliens deciding to show themselves (or us finding them). Liberals would crash the market instantly and turn on each other on an international level (Every one of them would want THEIR nation to be first contact) and fascists would use it to justify a one world fascist government. Religious but philosophically dead freaks would break down mentally (IE most american christians simply are not ready for the idea of intelligent life off world).

Aliens don't inherently mean anything to leftist ideas. Sure a overall "good" future leftist government(s) could botch contact real bad. But if Lenin knew there were little green men 10 million light years away that couldn't even talk to us, would it have changed anything?

Ultimately, aliens existing doesn't mean anything to the material conditions on earth, unless they can directly effect us (IE, give us tech, destroy us, etc etc). Hell even if we learned that the aliens were Space Hitler, it still wouldn't mean much. It'd be concerning, and liberals and fash would use it to say we should follow their lead, but it'd be pretty irrelevant to humans by itself (unless they're in orbit but that'd be another concern).

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Me too, I think it's very interesting to think about 'What If?' bigger picture scenarios and what they say about our current priorities and thought processes.

For leftist political theory I suppose it would so wildly depend on the nature of the intelligence. Their history would certainly at least give serious ideas as to what may be a more ideal end-results and revolutionary processes than we're currently conceiving.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I guess an immediate thought of mine would be immediately being afraid that the capitalist power start a new arms race for the tech they get out of that situation. It might have a similar impact on geopolitics that the discovery and proliferation of nuclear weapons had over 80 years ago.

I have to agree that the nature of the intelligence will matter. Such an intelligence could have gone down a different development path according to the material conditions it lived in and not arrived at communism at the end. That could be a possibility despite all of us here wishing for the former outcome.