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[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

burning gas or switch to EVs

Youre still burning gas with evs, someway or another

[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

The turbines in the thermal electrostations are massively more efficient than your petrol vehicle lol

[–] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

This is true today, but EVs can be recharged by solar and wind power just as much as by coal power, no? Doesn't an EV unshackle the concept of a car from the concept of burning fossil fuels, even if they are not practically separated today?

Don't get me wrong, I fucking hate cars. But there's no putting the toothpaste back into the tube, and I don't think we can complain that China is underinvesting in alternate forms of transportation.

Just one cantaloupe's thoughts

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes I am aware of how electricity is made

[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No need to be snarky. You read my comment and then replied not addressing any of my points, as if you hadn’t registered them.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

puzzled

china doesn’t view EVs as the primary solution

China is progressing towards other, more sustainable forms of energy and transportation

the US is not interested in any single alternative

while most Chinese takes climate change seriously

Not sure what more you want from me

[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

china doesn’t view EVs as the primary solution

Never said it did

China is progressing towards other, more sustainable forms of energy and transportation

What does that have to do with my comment about the viability of Evs?

the US is not interested in any single alternative

Not talking about the US

while most Chinese takes climate change seriously

Nothing to do with my comment. I’m not attacking China, chill

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

About 30% of energy in China is from sustainable sources, and that percentage gets higher every year.

Because many EVs are charged during peak production times, the percentage saved by EVs is probably even higher. So you're burning 30%+ less gas.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

No need to be snarky. You read their comment and then replied not addressing any of their points, as if you hadn’t registered them.

[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

I don’t need to address them because I don’t find any wrong with them, they just have nothing to so with what I’m saying

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

As tech improves it will get better. Itxs easier to build small scale individual uses right now. That is helping to develop batteries at scale which will eventually greatly improve efficiency of plants and will eventually have full scale solar arrays smart grids and battery plants. Peaking power and crap-it-all-ist generating on demand for maxinum short term profts is something that needs to change as a mindset.

China is going to do it first. Once they put us to shame because we're 20-50 years behind and then maybe we'll get to what we should have done. But we need to be spanked and humiliated first.