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Like Ryan said, it is green washing if it's viewed as the end to climate change. The best solution is mass public transit and ending fossil fuel use.
The efficiency of fossil fuel power plant production is greater than the efficiency of a single ICE car, so the overall emissions are lower, but emissions will grow the more people drive.
Now if the power source changes from fossil fuels, then the emissions go down a lot, except for what is needed to exploit resources to make the cars and the power production.
I don’t think this is the definition of green washing. Something doesn’t have to be the be all and end all solution to climate change to be a form green washing.
I think this is a reply that would change my mind on the effectiveness of evs and would like to see any studies that proove this.
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2024/01/electric-vehicles-use-half-the-energy-of-gas-powered-vehicles/
Though I get a feeling you're just trying to be anti-China for some reason or other.
This is what happens when you’re on a hair trigger about everything China. I’m not anti-China.
Maybe, but this is pretty basic stuff that you're asking others to Google after a rough start to the thread making it seem like China's approach deserved the same derision as western approaches without any real knowledge on the subject. That behavior is all too common with reactionaries.
Just be better in the future, either avoid the western anti-Chinese BS that taught you this line of reasoning or think skeptically about claims that China is just as bad or worse on climate change. And Google once you get pushback instead of the innocent "I just need someone to source me claims" act. If you don't find the info, then ask. I found the result I shared with you by googling "energy efficiency of EVs", so not like this was hard work or something
It was one thing when you made your initial comments. But at this point, you are just splitting hairs.
It is just a fact that evs reduce emissions compared to ices, and will reduce them even further in the future given the track china is on.
Like even you argue that the better solution is public transit, china has been developing that too. Or say you have a problem with steel production, or concrete manufacturing, or literally every major source of pollution, Chinese industry is fucking working on it and making progress quickly.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=efficiency+of+power+plants+vs+engines