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[–] fisco@lemmy.ml 56 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Effectively an admission..😅

[–] subignition@fedia.io 95 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's real dangerous to look at someone seeking legal representation and take that as an implication of guilt.

Not defending Mr Beast at all, I'm sure there is no shortage of actual evidence of wrongdoing

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

This isn’t even a reaction to known allegations—apparently he’s just anticipating potential future trouble:

the reason that Donaldson hired the flashy lawyer is to conduct an internal audit of his company, the likes of which has recently come under fire as the result of various scandals.

So I think it’s fair to say it’s an admission that his conduct might be legally questionable, without taking it as a confession of guilt

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

IIRC there was significant backlash over the Squid Games clone, or what was supposed to be. This is probably a wise decision.

If you wait until you need a lawyer, you waited too long.

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 4 points 2 months ago

You don't hire a well known "PR Superstar"-level lawyer without being super worried that your conduct might be viewed as wrong in a court of public opinion, regardless of whether or not you broke the law. The Lawyer ensures public opinion doesn't affect the possible legal case mess that's likely going on.

Until those legal tangles are resolved, we really won't know more; and oftentimes details left for public record will be minimal if no wrongdoing was found.

Personally; I think it's possible that the allegations might not be 100% legitimate, I do believe people would love to smear him if it meant potential financial gains and social notoriety. But I also think it's equally as possible that he is in fact as bad of a person as is alleged; and I believe he's likely to be very much a self-serving person who hides that dark side with his very public persona. There are a number of people in creator circles who whisper stories of negative interactions with him.

[–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

Companies hire outside auditors all the time. If you grew super fast and don't retain legal counsel, that's a great reason to give a full shakedown when you finally do hire lawyers to help with compliance.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

And yet, auditing for scandals in your inner circle is also something you might do if you’re trying to do the right thing. I’m not saying he is, nor that I support him, just that y’all are following other lemmings off this cliff for insufficient reasons

[–] BurnedDonut@ani.social -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't like Mr. Beast. But I'm a lawyer and it's not strange that someone taking legal action to determine if there is something wrong either it's as a person or a corporation. Considering he is using his persona for his business audits of his business is nothing out of the norm. On the other hand calling it an admission of legally questionable behavior because someone went to a court of law so that it can be decided legally is same as calling someone guilty because others felt like it. Law doesn't work like that. You can say it's ethically problematic but than you can't single him out because many people joined him in such bullshit.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course law doesn't work that way. Law is inherently complicated because it needs to be abused only by those with the proper resources. Also - literally nobody fucking cares how the law works unless it's a step between where you are and where you need to go. At which point rich people will hire others to get over the step, and poor people will just jump over the step. Rich people will get away with it and get a slap on the wrist, and poor people will suffer the full wrath of the system, to make sure everyone else knows it's for real and doesn't question the authority of those in charge. Rich people are free, poor people are held hostage within the system and cannot break out. Law doesn't establish morality of actions or justice, it doesn't prevent or punish what society deems evil, it just separates those who can get away with their actions from those who can't.

Kill your masters.

[–] BurnedDonut@ani.social -1 points 2 months ago

What a childish and ignorant opinion. Do you know how many people executed in history without even hearing about what they were accused of? Or do you know how many people didn't even have the chance to defend themselves because ignorant people like you felt like that they know they are guilty? Or how many people are lynched in the streets because someone said they are guilty? History is full of such examples. Blaming the law and asking for anarchy is not a solution. Who's going to stop the powerful in your utopia from taking everything from you? How it's different than your rich gets to do all claim? Law is complicated because law deals with human relations, action and their results when you come up with a simple human civilization you can make simple laws. This modern society that you despise that gave you all these amenities came as a result of laws that you despise. You wanna go back be my guest go establish your own state let's see how long you and your like minded people will stay alive.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

The allegations are that he is a dickhead, and him resorting to hiring a flashy lawyer to fight it pretty much confirms that.

He is not a defendant here he will be a plaintiff in those suits.

[–] BurnedDonut@ani.social -1 points 2 months ago

First of all I don't like this guy and I find him as something wrong with him. Secondly I'm a lawyer with over 20 years so, if I call you "fisco" a pedophile and you file a lawsuit against my claim by your own statement it's an admission of guilt and you should be legally registered as a pedophile.