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I'd rather not have a flag-humping military-worshiping head-injuries-are-basically-expected with consequently-lifelong-behavioral-problems-and-domestic-violence-from-participants side of sports, or at least one minimized as much as possible no matter how much such damaging spectacles excite the hogs conditioned to expect them.
Even so, I may as well tap the sign considering how this already predictably went:
it seems like a lot of comments here are implicitly talking about US football but there are a lot of other sports out there, people generally don't care whether you're into their sport as long as you're into some sport
I still find that attitude kind of toxic, but only roughly as toxic as le enlightened Redditors looking down their noses at sportsball while going bazinga for e-sports, which in some ways have become just an accelerated version of the most toxic fandom aspects of non-e-sports.
Sports are fine, and should even be encouraged, but for fuck's sake must they be concussionball with flag-humping characteristics?
No they don't need to be US football which should clearly be abolished but folks in this thread hyperfixating on how lame American football is are kinda missing the point.
I'd prefer the greater point to be the gambling and hypermonetization characteristics of Burgerland sports culture do the most public harm of all, even moreso than the head injuries of full-contact sports.
That's not any better.
I don't hate sports, but i hate a lot of the cultural brainworms around sports. I'm not sure if they're as bad as they were when i was a kid, but they used to be awful. One of those is the expectation that if you were born male you MUST care about sports. You MUST be able to have a conversation about THE GAME. Obviously these things are deeply rooted in the enforcement of patriarchy. Patriarchy is the actual problem and the thing i hate, but you can't ignore how sports (at least in the US - your country may vary) plays a role in that. That doesn't nake sports inherently bad - they aren't. But the status of sports as "this is the good and normal thing to like - and you must like one of them to be normal" is fucked
everyone on this site seems to struggle with irl social interaction and let me tell you being able to do basic sports talk is like playing the socialization game on easy mode
Yeah the site has a sizable neurodiverse community and we have spent all our lives being made to justify to others why we don't just "be normal."
I'm on the spectrum, the spectrum isn't aligned against sports except under some archaic jock/nerd viewpoint. I know of at least a few big athletes that are out about being on the spectrum. Lots of special interest material to be found. Many sports, especially rock climbing & BJJ, that pair very well with neuroatypical makeup due to the huge depth of techniques to be learned.
Okay but what if sports aren't one of my special interests
I mean I enjoyed parkour back when I was in the right environment for it but the average prole I'm meant to appeal to probably doesn't know or care much about parkour
I would say that is fine, and was the case for me for a long time too, but don't foreclose yourself to the idea that it could be one of your interests in the future.
You are right. But like, 'learning to do sportstalk' to help with 'socialization' (especially at work) doesn't make me like sports. If anything, I kinda makes me think its dumber.
But yeah, sports, beers/alcohol, guns, hunting, all classic 'guy talk' I'm decently good at, despite none being things I'm really into.
I don't struggle with that. The idea that people who aren't into sports are socially awkward is yet another toxic trope.
Me: the expectation to do sports talk is a toxic cultural expectation of the patriarchy to enforce gender role confirmity.
You: just do basic sports talk bro, it'll be easier for you
That's pretty presumptive of you, and even if it wasn't, it sounds a bit like concern trolling and that's not cool. What must be done to be "normal" and why must it typically involve marginalizing marginalized people further, if not outright self-harm?
I submit that if you ever meet somebody from the global south or any kind of actually proletarian class, the singular thing it would be possible to talk to & bond with them over, if language is shared, is sports.
I think they'd just mock you if you're into curling or, like, badminton
Badminton was literally the only sport I enjoyed as a teenager and would be willing to try playing again today
Hitting floaty objects with a racket is fun.
rn at my work they are selling these led light up badminton sets and I kinda wanna buy one. I used to play it at my grandparents house as a kid and I remember it being quite fun and playing it in the dark with removed bits while high as fuck would be awesome.
The Robin Hood Disney movie made badminton look fun.
I don't know if this is true at a high level, but I think for someone just picking up a racket, it's a lot easier to play than something like tennis. The birdie really does float unless someone spikes it at you, so you have a lot of time to react to what's happening and someone more advanced can pretty easily tailor their play to a newcomer.