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New court documents reveal that Russia is keeping a very, very long list of influencers to spread its propaganda.

The Russian disinformation plot revealed in a Justice Department indictment this week may just be the tip of the iceberg, according to newly unsealed court documents.

On Wednesday, the DOJ announced it would seize 32 internet domains linked to a larger Kremlin scheme to promote disinformation and influence the 2024 election. The Russian campaign, known as Doppelganger, uses AI-generated content to create “fake news” boosted through social media with the aim of electing Donald Trump. 

Of particular note, the documents released Wednesday included an affidavit that noted a Russian company is keeping a list of more than 2,800 influencers world wide, about one-fifth of whom are based in the United States, to monitor and potentially groom to spread Russian propaganda. The affidavit does not mention the full list of influencers, but is still a terrifying indicator of how deep the Russian plot to interfere in U.S. politics really goes.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

terrifying scale

barely a percentage point compared to the fossil fuel industry's war on Green Energy

I suppose you could reasonably argue that Rex Tillerson and Vladimir Putin were already joined at the hip. But the US advertising and influencing industry is vast - $515B annually and growing. The Russians aren't even in the top ten of foreign influence peddlers. FFS, the Saudis bought golf.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Saudis aren't trying to get Trump elected and directly meddle in the election.

And sure, the Saudis whitewash themselves and try to make us forget about Jamal. But Russia influence is really bad.


I'm not necessarily against foreign influence. Ukrainians have a right to make their case to us for example. But the Russian style disinfo is leading to conspiracy theories and a degeneration of our society.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lol yes they are. They're part owners of Twitter, which became a pro-Trump cesspool. That alone is orders of magnitude bigger than this Russian thing.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, what about this thing that has nothing to do with the subject of Russia influencing elections?

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Wah but whatabout

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well Russia is part of that fossil fuel industry too, and they also hire lobbyists to push fossil fuels

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It's a big club and you ain't in it

[–] ochi_chernye@startrek.website 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

barely a percentage point compared to the fossil fuel industry's war on Green Energy

That's not really relevant in this context, though, is it? Maybe a better comparison would be 2024 election spending by foreign-connected PACS. According to opensecrets.org, the "nearly $10 million" allegedly distributed by RT employees is equivalent to the sum of all other foreign pac money donated to the GOP this cycle. It's certainly not "dwarfed by any other country" as you spuriously claimed.

Saudi sportswashing and other shenanigans are also cause for concern. That in no way lessens the severity of this problem.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

That’s not really relevant

It's illustrative of a system of "influencing" that Americans drown in daily. Russian propaganda peddlers are peeing into the sewer.

The panic is over the "Russian"-ness of this media. But the machine that manufacturers consent is merely on loan.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Russia might not spend as much money on propaganda as some other entities, but they punch above their weight in terms of tactics and effectiveness.