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I just noticed that active users on Lemmy got slashed, what happened?

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[โ€“] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 135 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (23 children)

Lemmy devs decided to exclude lemmy.world from the join-lemmy site because it's too big. Obviously that removes a lot of active users.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/joinlemmy-site/pull/358

[โ€“] eee@lemm.ee 63 points 2 months ago (25 children)

That's stupid.

The main problem with lemmy now is adoption, there isn't a critical mass of users yet.

When users see the stats without lemmy.world, they'll be discouraged from joining. Add to that the issues with federation and the few who join will leave because of the steep learning curve.

Way to alienate potential users.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 48 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Yeah. If they pushed it to the bottom of the list, or even removed them from the list but kept the user count, I could kind of understand it. But censoring them completely for being too successful seems like shooting yourself in the foot.

Lemmy.world is doing great and I'm happy for it and all that, but... 20 000 monthly active users does not exactly make them a tech giant that needs to be kept in check just yet. Ideally, instances of 20 000 active users should be quite normal at some point, and having stress tested the software before then should, one assumes, be a good thing.

[โ€“] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 11 points 2 months ago

You probably also have the friction been .world and the developers' Lemmy.

There is also a problem that Lemmy seems to be having problems maintaining a good middle ground of Lemmy servers.

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[โ€“] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

buT mUh DeCenTrAlIZatiOn!

[โ€“] T156@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

The decentralisation probably doesn't help either. People coming to Lemmy from other places are coming from a centralised system. That takes some getting used to.

If you're new to this, you can be forgiven by thinking that all the Lemmy instances are their own separate thing, like the forums of old, rather than that they're all interconnected (excluding a whole bunch of stuff about defederation and all of that mess).

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[โ€“] someguy3@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I want the biggest Lemmy you have.

No, that's too big.

[โ€“] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a genuine concern though. If you want one centralised server hosting all the content, just use reddit.

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[โ€“] expatriado@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

so lemmy.world became too big to fail and the other instances decided didn't want to risk a potential bail out?

[โ€“] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This has nothing to do with other instances. The join-lemmy.org site is run by the Lemmy developers and they decide what happens with that site. They think it's problematic that lemmy.world is as big as it is (as one of the points of the fediverse is decentralization). So they removed lemmy.world from the listing on join-lemmy.org.

Note that this is in no way a defederation or anything of that sort. The site just doesn't show lemmy.world, that's all.

[โ€“] expatriado@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

my comment was mostly a joke, but it doesn't contradict your point, lemmy.word got too big(relatively) so it got de-listed to flow new users to other instances

[โ€“] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

my comment was mostly a joke

Sorry for not getting it, it's just that sometimes people (understandably) get very confused about the technicalities of the fediverse and mix up things like defederation and stuff like this. ๐Ÿ˜…

Consider a /s in the future :)

[โ€“] expatriado@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

it's ok, it was a reference to the 2008 finacial bubble, i knew there was the risk younger people wouldn't get it

[โ€“] nutomic@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right, I didn't think how it would affect the total active user count. Will have to think of a solution for that.

[โ€“] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess a new flag to only exclude it from the list but not exclude it from the stats ๐Ÿคท

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