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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I have pretty ambivalent feelings now, on one side my most hated videogame corpo ever, on the other chuds that openly advertise their game as slavery and exploitation simulator.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed honestly. I just think this is a really fuckin stupid move on TPC's part because this TOTALLY is going to have a Streisand backlash regardless of the outcome of the suit. Which means we have to hear even more chud bullshit about it.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh, I kinda doubt it. Pokemon fans are like Harry Potter fans or Blizzard fans: they'll keep buying that slop no matter what, and then get pissed when you tell them about how shitty the people behind their slop are.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Oh I'm not thinking about pokemon fans, I'm thinking about the chuds inevitably recharged by TPC trying to pull this shit with their bazinga-bro slave game.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is it just the advertising that you disagree with? Kinda seems like pokemon is also a slavery and exploitation simulator but all the slaves have happy faces instead of sad ones

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pokemon is a wrestling manager simulator

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

Seeing the rock on the street and trying to capture him in a ball

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't just come in here with takes I'll be thinking about all day.

[–] AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

It's 100% correct. Pokemon is Wrestle Angels.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 months ago

Yes, i also don't like Pokemon very much, but Pokemon isn't openly being advertised to chuds as slavery simulator. I don't have opinion on a game, as you can notice reading the previous posts, but whomever wrote the advert needs long rest in gulag.

[–] whogivesashit@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago

This is a theme that's been explored several times in Pokemon anime and video games already and even more so in the manga very explicitly.

This game obviously takes it to the extreme, but is not fundamentally different to Pokemon.

I think people are just nostalgia pilled

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's insane to me how often I see takes like this, where it's clear that not only did they not play the game, they didn't even watch a second of gameplay.

If the game didn't HEAVILY penalize you for actually trying to exploit your pals, I'd agree, but mechanically a sweatshop will actually produce nothing at all in a short period of time. Bad working conditions lead to pals stopping work altogether until you let them rest, feed them, etc. to the point it's obvious their marketing and actual game design aren't in lockstep. You're REQUIRED to treat pals well to make substantial progress.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you advertise your game as a slaveowner simulator, people are going to conclude it's a slaveowner simulator. That's how marketing works.

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The development team and the marketing team are not the same people. Extremely naïve to come to a complete conclusion with 0 exposure to gameplay. I don't respect the opinion because it isn't informed.

[–] glingorfel@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

why would I play a game that was marketed in a way that makes me not like it at all? I don't need to be "informed" by being exposed to gameplay. it's not naive to reject something based on how it was sold to me lmao. it's not my fault that the marketing people are casting the game in such a bad light

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't respect you being smuglord

It's not an "ill-informed" take you obtuse nerd! A good part of the advertising & marketing of the game, the material that is proliferated and shown to potential buyers, emphasizes casual cruelty and slavery.

It's not ill-informed to not want to play because of that! It's still an option in the game, no? You can work your cute little anime animals to death, you can butcher and eat them. The shock value was capitalized on by scumlord streamers for views much the same way as it was by the marketing - one has to wonder why these systems were included if not explicitly for the shock marketing value.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't respect the opinion because it isn't informed.

That's fine, I don't respect yours because you're a tool

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Devs themselves advertise their game like that. Reviews are full of chuds too. It's not even changed after all those months leading me to conclusion it's intended.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was interested in the concept at first but it's the exact shit you mention that killed any enthusiasm I had.

"It's not optimal to be cruel" and "you can fight the poachers" c'mon now, they clearly know what they're implying and to assert otherwise is dishonest.

Maybe I'm "too sensitive" but them leaning into the vibe of cruelty and exploitation of deliberately cute, innocent sentient beings just made the whole thing feel gross to me. Personally I'd rather it not be an option at all but I'm clearly not the target demo, a not insignificant portion of which is irony poisoned chuds

[–] IWantToMakeProgress@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Check the trailers. I was put off at first but tried it after checking the trailer and read the reviews which most of them state that the exploit/slavery is not the focus. There is free straw-hat-pirates demo btw.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

I am aware it's not the focus - I just find it gross that 1) it's an option in the first place and 2) that it was marketed on this and emphasized by certain streamers and LPers. I don't have interest in the game, I know what it contains and I don't want to play it even though slavery "isn't the focus". Just very much not my thing

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Nerd got banned and took it to dms lmao. If you're reading this, you can eat my ass, punk

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

He also send message to me about good devs and evil marketing. Real g*mer moment. And the second dude is being ever funnier blaming it on... language barrier because it's 1830 and obviously Japanese devs don't know English.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He also send message to me about good devs and evil marketing.

wtf-am-i-reading

Could you explain this one or summarize the message?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The game had a 6 Million+ USD equivalent budget, they hired marketing. Banning people randomly looks stupid.

With the context of discussion, it's clearly just devs good and innocent, marketing bad. As if that main game page on the biggest game store in history wasn't unchanged for months despite controversies. So the devs either are: a) hostages of their hired marketing people b) completely disinterested how their work is being advertised c) perfectly ok with it

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I haven't even looked much into Palworld, but what I did get from marketing blurbs was "what if Pokemon... but edgy and grimdark?"

Those Schrodinger's Asshole claims that the marketing isn't the game's intended way to play seem rather after the fact to me.

I heard similar bullshit about the "Postal" series and how a player didn't have to do any edgelord atrocity enjoying at all if they chose not to.

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[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you report this that nerd will likely get sitebanned for dm haressment

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

If you report this that nerd will likely get sitebanned for dm haressment

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Toxic treat defending freeze-gamer fandom keeps collecting those Ls.

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ah yes, the storefront page. Definitely direct dev communication and not marketing.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 months ago

Game is selfpublished and they are not a huge disconnected bureocratic corpo, stop grasping at straws to defend this.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] IWantToMakeProgress@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

Japanese devs and English go well together.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Ah yes

Nothing good comes after that post opener. reddit-logo shit.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's insane

"Everyone who criticizes the treats is mentally ill (and mental illness makes their opinions invalid), a bedtime story for treat defenders."

[–] IWantToMakeProgress@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Slavery playstyle is more of a meme. You're more pushed into the playstyle of improving the Pals's condition, upgrade path from better bed, better hotspring, better food, ... so they can work and rest better. It's a sandbox survival game, you can choose how to play it.

You can improve the pal's life ingame, but you as the pal in real life is kitty-birthday-sad

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn't played it, my opinion is based on a description/advertisement put by devs on the game steam page, and its one of the worst things i ever read there, at best it can be described as "ironic chuddery" which is usually just a flimsy cover for real chuddery, and even gathering all the benefit of a doubt existing in galaxy for the devs, such description is sure bound to gather real chuds to the game. And it did, considering the reviews.

[–] IWantToMakeProgress@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I watched the trailers first and the vibe from the trailers are very adventuring with your pals. Reading the description without context can give bad impressions if you assume the worst. It has solo mode and dedicated servers (rare feature in gaming now) so chuds or not, you won't see them anyway.

The trailers in release order:

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Seems like it’s supposed to be ironic. Basically holding a mirror up to Pokemon. I dont know why people stress out about it lol

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Irony as a universal excuse for everything is a few decades expired.