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[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 33 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

I thought the general consensus was that the war in Ukraine was a democrat project because the Republicans want to buddy up with Russia against China, but the Democrats are literally insane and think we can 1v2 them

Also things like the Democrats having more grift going on in ukraine i.e. hunter biden

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 38 points 12 hours ago

I think that's the mainstream press idea, but Obama, Trump, and Biden all supplied Ukraine with billions in weaponry, support, and training to blow the shit out of the Donbass and drag Russia into attacking. Zelensky knew the score too... Trump gave plenty toward getting his country decimated, but Obama and Biden gave even more.

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 27 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nah the neocons like Lindsey Graham are on the ukraine project too.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I have a feeling Trump and some republicans are against funding Ukraine publicly because they know the war is unpopular and that it's an easy way for them to get some political points agains the Dems ("Republicans are for peace, while Dems are for war" something like that). But I also believe trump would 100% fund Ukraine if he was still president.

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 5 points 4 hours ago

"Antiwar" republicans are only doing so out of contrarianism to own the pro war democrats, yeah

[–] miz@hexbear.net 4 points 4 hours ago

the complicating factor is that dems are the ones primarily benefitting from the cash dumps on the Ukraine