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Various thoughts:

  • Around 20 people weren't properly covered by the gender categories, obviously we're trying to be as inclusive as possible and a different approach will be tried next time

  • There were about 600 respondents, which gives us a accurate sampling of the active userbase. If you multiply any number by 3, you'll get a fairly accurate representation of the full userbase each week. This means there are around 800-900 people who don't identify fully as cis each week on this site.

  • Nearly 300 trans/gender diverse/questioning people unanimously agree that hexbear is an inclusive space

  • There was so much data on gender that I was really struggling to find a way to convey the data that wasnt a pie chart, graph, or an incomprehensible kalaeidoscope. If you have an idea on how to beautify the data, you can download the raw data here: https://pad.artemislena.eu/file/#/2/file/xzy4pck8on+oZp9yGRUIezR+/ - I further anonymized this data by removing time of response and any specific comments, I don't think it would be easy for anyone to figure out who is who.

  • There were a couple of text responses that really needed further elaboration, I noted hexbear's rules next to these comments

  • I'll probably be doing a demographics survey sometime in the future, including basic fairly anonymous stuff like "what region were you born in" "where do the languages you speak originate" "would you describe yourself as a POC" "what age range are you in".

  • The percentage of people answering they were cisgender increased by 8% than the previous survey. This could be for a myriad of reasons, such as cis people being afraid trans people will hunt them down in the public thread and assassinate them. Anonymity may have made them feel safer to respond. Regardless, way more people responded this time, which signifies that people felt safer responding to the cryptpad or it was easier to do. The leading question was a bit more inclusive than last time, but I think I'll include both questions (are you transgender / gender diverse and are you cisgender) to see how people respond.

  • We have a lot of people that aren't binary trans on this site.

  • Some of the questions were pretty funky and we got a lot of fuzzy responses on them as a result. In particular "After you realized you were trans/gender diverse, how long did it take for you to begin to act on it?" and "At what age did you begin transition?" caused a lot of friction, I think I will ask more vague questions in the future that lead to a path of more specific questions to capture better data, and to save people time. Questions like "Do you feel your gender transition had a defined starting point?" and some further ones.

  • Around 20 people each week on this site are cis she/hers, which is very low and roughly the same as last time. I feel like if hexbear ever starts hosting other federated stuff (like a federated tiktok or something) and can hook into it natively with lemmy, we'd see a better ratio.

  • I tried to be very sure any data with >2 people on it was clearly legible, I think some people might find it fun that there are others with their same fairly specific classifications per this survey lurking around on the site.

  • Overall I feel like the survey was a success despite some bumps.

  • You can find the other surveys/links here: https://hexbear.net/post/3016455

  • I made these graphs on company time bridget-pride-stay-mad

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[โ€“] Yukiko@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Misogyny may be a bannable offense, but it most certainly bleeds through often enough that there are days where I feel very uncomfortable on this website. Some of the threads that pop up from time to time are absolutely disgusting.

[โ€“] Seasonal_Peace@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry you feel that way. Could you let me know what kind of comments you're referring to? I want to make sure I avoid any behavior that makes you and others uncomfortable. fidel-salute-big

[โ€“] Yukiko@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've spent some time away from this website and recently made a new account for it. There have been no offenders recently. In the past, it was always those fucking dating threads or anything involving dating advice for men and my reports were only heeded half the fucking time.

[โ€“] Seasonal_Peace@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing that. I will make an effort to report "advice" that's not genuinely well-meaning and sincere.

[โ€“] Seasonal_Peace@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I looked up "dating" in the search and found this. I think everyone that says OPs actions are ok should at least be banned for some time. Honestly I'm disgusted by the he/him in the thread.

[โ€“] glans@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

wow that thread is fucking terrible. for a bunch of communists these people sure like the idea of owning a woman.

[โ€“] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yep this was the most recent nightmare thread for misogyny. it's a problem that bans don't get thrown out for it readily enough.

[โ€“] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I havent been looking outside of the news mega much lately, your responses in that thread are really good. That must have been a horrible couple of hours, thank you.

[โ€“] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

thank you for saying so. yeah i really got my hackles up that day, so many people arguing in bad faith. i actually had to step back from the site for a little bit because it put me in such a foul mood. misogyny is gonna be a problem in basically any online space, obviously especially those where men exist. it's quite a bad problem here and imo not addressed with a heavy enough hand a lot of the time. not sure what to do about that though.

[โ€“] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

No idea if it's the right place to do this,but I will own up to my rather poorly worded tangent there and admit I had horse blinders on

My thinking was simply that it's shitty to not disclose that to someone first before starting that sort of a relationship and that in a purely hypothetical sense, disregarding all the potential of the man to be an abuser that it would be more ethical to tell that to them,also I half heatedly tried to acknowledge the power imbalance in any cishet relationship and the multitude of other factors that might lead to someone seeking an extramarital affair and I did not treat the matter as a real world scenario,but as a hypothetical occurring in a vacuum,which is not at all the way something like this should be discussed

I did not and do not believe the OP handled it correctly at all,but I am particularly bothered by my usage of the word "Excuse" which did not convey my feelings about the matter properly at all and I would like to express my most sincere apologies to any women and femme presenting folks that potentially have been made to feel unsafe as a consequence of my poorly worded tangent

I did not consider that my words would make people feel unsafe and I do not wish to cause any potential emotional harm to people,so I would be willing to eat up a ban for what I said

[โ€“] kristina@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Very important to report when a post makes you uncomfortable! We'll send out a death squad quickly!

[โ€“] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When you see a misogynist, call them a misogynist, I'll back you up. No we we not be entertaining debate perverts.

I still get pretty nervous about being dogpiled when I call bullshit out, but it's always been taken pretty well. I know its exhausting, but if people arent held up to a mirror theyre never going to learn, and for the most part people here will listen.

It took years to work through this shit myself and I'm still not perfect obviously. Its embarrassing when it happens, but its good when someone tells you off.

This goes for anything.

At least report them, shout out to the mods.

[โ€“] Yukiko@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

I do report them and those reports are rarely heeded. And I'm not going to engage these fuckheads when I'm a woman and they're being misogynist.