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Summary

Justice Samuel Alito, a self-described Originalist, has been criticized for allegedly disregarding the Constitution’s text when it conflicts with his personal views.

Recently, it emerged that Alito accepted a knighthood from a European order, despite the Constitution’s ban on foreign titles for U.S. officials.

This title, from the House of Bourbon–Two Sicilies, raises questions about Alito’s commitment to American democratic ideals, which the Framers aimed to protect from foreign influence.

Critics argue that Alito’s actions reflect hypocrisy in his supposed adherence to Originalism and constitutional principles.

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 121 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

The key point here, not to get distracted, taking the title is trivial in the modern age. The title has little meaning to someone of today. The hitch is that Altito is a profound originalist. When he interprets the constitution he claims the text should be interpreted exactly as the founders explicited intented. All together, taking the title against the prohibition of the constitution acknowledges what his real intentions are. By claiming to know the framers exact intentions, something that is clearly unknowable, he can inject his own interests as he pleases.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No, it is not trivial, it is a fundamental rejection of (small r) republicanism in the pursuit of personal vainglory.

It is also an aspect of Christofascism that you would, admittedly, need quite a lot of reading on development of the medieval concept of knighthood to pick up on even if modern elements are recognizable but the tl;Dr of it all is that knights as a separate and popular European political class are fundamentally linked to the "Crusader" archetype as an innately Christian warrior who does violence for the faith.

Whether Alito is aware of that specifically or not, and I wouldn't put much money on it as most people are rather surprised to find out even the earliest conceptualization of knight is actually more of a 10th century/Crusade thing than a Dark Age concept, I would certainly argue that that innately Christian aspect is at least subconsciously understood by Western society in general and I can say with certainty that 20th century fascist messaging was aware of it specifically and used it quite a lot.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 1 week ago

The specific group that knighted him, the Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George, is explicitly along Crusader lines.

https://realcasadiborbone.it/en/constantinian-order/

The Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George is an ancient and internationally recognised Order of Knighthood which, from its remotest origins, has resolved to work for the glorification of the Cross, the propagation of the Faith, and the defence of the Holy Roman Church, to which it is strictly bound through special merits acquired in the East, and for which manifold evidences of gratitude and benevolence have been expressed by successive Supreme Pontiffs of the Roman Catholic Church.

Alito knows.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

This seems like bad behavior to me, doing something explicitly forbidden by the Constitution. Given that the Constitution says a justice shall "hold their office during good Behavior", he should be terminated from his position of power.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So, he’s either a dumb azz or he is lying?

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's lying. He's a traitorous piece of shit who should be executed thusly.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hear Tar and Feathering traitors was all the rage back in the founding father days.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would prefer lynching, hang him by his ligaments.

We either keel haul or draw and quarter traitors, depending on the environment

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The key point here is that it is grounds for impeachment by.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Or even just starting the proceedings. Their counter argument would have to be so detached from reality and would undermine the decades they've been forcing originalism down our throats.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you choose to look, Ted Kennedy received an honorary knighthood from Queen Elizabeth 2 whilst a sitting senator. And no one batted an eye. In fact he was widely praised for being knighted when it happened.

There are lots of meaningless honorary titles floating about if you care to actually look. And yes those types of titles, like "knighthood", are meaningless these days and have been for a number of centuries.

Did you read what I wrote?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

This is not an honorary title. This is membership in the order, with duties and benefits. They gave him the highest rank you can get without noble blood. This is exactly what the Constitution bans.