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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/12162

Why? Because apparently they need some more incentive to keep units occupied. Also, even though a property might be vacant, there's still imputed rental income there. Its owner is just receiving it in the form of enjoying the unit for himself instead of receiving an actual rent check from a tenant. That imputed rent ought to be taxed like any other income.

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[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Oh, so you just want the state to be your landlord? Enjoy your cinderblock gulag.

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can vote for who runs the state, I can't vote for my landlord.

[–] bagend@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

these pro-landlord tankies don't believe in democracy smdh

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can rent from someone else. That’s actually easier than moving cities, states, or countries.

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I rent from someone who isn't a capitalist who's charging me way more than the cost of upkeep for the property to make a profit? Also even if we have a housing market wouldn't the option to live in public housing be good for less well off people to help drive down rents on the private housing market?

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you want to argue that the government should develop low cost housing, that’s an interesting discussion. In general, “supply” regardless of how it’s created, is the answer to high housing prices. I do fear that you’ll be dissatisfied with the quality of that government housing.

[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

No it's not. That's why you have houses and apartments for hypothetical millionaires going empty because no one can actually afford them. As long as homes and real estate have speculative value there is no guarantee that "supply" will positively affect prices or affect them enough to provide housing for everyone.

The simple fact that there are more empty homes and apartments than there are homeless people disproves your premise.

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

I do fear that you’ll be dissatisfied with the quality of that government housing.

IDK Austria and a few other Euro nations seem to be pulling it off okay.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socialism is...... When you own your own home??

spoileryes-sicko

che-smile

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes, Socialism has home ownership.

The only thing that is state affiliated more than in Capitalism is the mean of production (businesses) being owned by the state. Everything else is still owned by individuals.

You are thinking of Communism.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

it's a play on "communism means no toothbrush*

[–] bagend@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

You'd also be able to own your own home under communism, to be clear.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

A private domicile is not private property, so yes even under communism people will own thier own homes.

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Western countries already provide resources for our less fortunate friends and neighbors. But we don’t use the police power of the state to force those resources on people that don’t want them. We also don’t round them up and force them to fight for our Moscovi overlords that are just a itsy-bitsy more equal than the rest of us. Hmmmm

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the west all of your children have the freedom to grow up as homeless crack heads living in tent cities, how inspiring.

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

😂🤣😂

Median US Household Income - $70,784

Median Moscovi Household Income -$27,634

Well shit, little Yuri, looks like a good deal for us.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

now compare the amount of homeless people in both, also you linked the same article twice

btw now you have edited your article remind me, is russia a socilaist country or a neo-liberal one, like the USA?

you have linked me info of Russian from 2010-present, in what way am I remotely suggesting a capitalist, neo-liberal country is what im adovcating for?

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Homeless in the US - 0.2% of the population.

Homeless in Russia - 3.5% of the population.

Is this going the way you thought it would?

[–] bagend@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Russia has a capitalist, pro-landlord economy, just like the US...

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where did I use modern day capitalist russia to prove my point again?

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha. Ok !lemmygrad 😂🤣😂. Here’s your L. Have a nice day.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago

mfw countries where the median income is 10% of the USA's can provide more housing for the people living in it, you are so cucked lmao

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

them up and force them to fight for our Moscovi overlords that are just a itsy-bitsy more equal than the rest of u

Nice whataboutism you tankie! Centrist liberal tankie!!!

Western countries already provide resources for our less fortunate friends and neighbors

Lol. Lmao even

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s true. That’s why our homelessness incidence are less than 10% of yours. Maybe that’s why you’re trying to drive yours down by conscripting your homeless and forcing them into “former glory” wars?

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. Do you just assume that everyone who disagrees with you is a Russian?
  2. Did you forget Russia hasn't been communist for over three decades?
[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I assume, accurately, that all you hexbears are Russian trolls, Hindu Nationalists, or various flavors of pudgey man children collectively known as college communists who want to seize the means of production from their parents that didn’t give them enough hugs. Which flavor are you? I bet it’s the last one 😂

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

racism to own the gommies. gottem

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Lol. rACisM!!!1. Why don’t you just trot out the Hitler Card while you’re at it!

Here you go bro, I’ll give you that hug you’ve been desperately missing 🤗

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Hahahahahahahhahaha

You aren't a real person, 'opinion' discarded

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

You know what's worse than a cinderblock gulag? Homelessness.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, so you just want the state to be your landlord? Enjoy your cinderblock gulag.

bootlicker

[–] Nicklybear@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

As someone who has been homeless, I would MUCH rather live my entire life in a "cinderblock gulag" then spend even a second homeless. So, yes, if we ever were to get such buildings provided to us from the government, I would greatly enjoy them.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you own property the state is already your landlord.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Well, then tell the government to come clean my gutter.

[–] kneel_before_yakub@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Oh, you want capitalist housing? Enjoy your tent getting destroyed by cops.