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This is what happens when we dont have basic rights like universal healthcare or stable jobs. And the "lesser evil" political party has nothing to offer besides vague phony optimism.

More and more people are being pushed to the fringe right due to the failures of capitalism.

We need better.

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[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

This is what happens when we don't have basic rights like universal healthcare or stable jobs. And the "lesser evil" political party has nothing to offer besides vague phony optimism.

More and more people are being pushed to the fringe right due to the failures of capitalism.

Nah.

These are just right-wing psychos.

You don't need to analyze literally everything through the lens of "the more-right-wing party won the latest bourgeoisie election which means everyone but me is right-wing".

Maybe there's a case for left-wing propaganda not being widespread enough. But even in that case, I don't think "capitalism is bad and causes all our problems" is some secret thing that young people have never heard.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 28 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don't think it's a bad theory, although maybe there's some recency bias in bringing up current US electoral politics to try to explain something much more general. Reactionary antisocial behavior is a consequence of alienation, i.e. people are pushed to the fringes because of capitalism's failure to maintain the social bonds that stops people from becoming misanthropic edgelords like OOP.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago

Some people really want to moralize and get defensive when materialist explanations are given.

We need to understand what causes fascists to exist if we want to eradicate them after all, and just believing they're an eternal evil of the universe doesn't help that. It's not about whether they are good or bad, we are going to have to deal with them they stand in our way, and we want to study the phenomena and conditions of their absurd existence so we can prevent future fascists from developing once we take power.

[–] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Plus I think socialized medicine and healthcare would help a lot of problems fix themselves. Lets be real, a lot of these people are just sick in the head qnd desperately need help they probably cant afford. Im sure some of them would refuse but just having free access to that help would definitely have a positive long term impact.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago

Lets be real, a lot of these people are just sick in the head qnd desperately need help they probably cant afford

Agreed, and alongside a whole host of other issues the most glaring ones are a colonial mentality/indoctrination, many over their whole life and even perhaps generations back. In truth as a PoC who came from a very mentally colonized family, a large chunk of PoC (of all communities) in the west, as well as across the world, also could use some serious help in this regard too.

The medicine/healthcare they need is re-education, basically psychiatric help. Whether they will or can get it is another matter, and the extent of damage they will do in the meantime is immense.

[–] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

I definitely agree to some extent. Theres always people youll judt never save.