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I’ve only caught clips of it and I’m not strong enough to watch in full so I ask how any of you felt about it if you watched it.

Portuguese news went over it briefly but I can only understand bits and pieces, from what I’ve gathered the whole thing was a shit show.

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[–] judgeholden@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

they’re fucking nuts. one of them said “climate change isn’t real, we need to keep extracting as many fossil fuels as possible”, they all talked about how we need to break up teacher’s unions, how we need to abolish the Department of Education, how we need to spend billions on our border like Israel, etc.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The amount of cheers was unsettling.

[–] judgeholden@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

there’s no hope for this country, it should just be abandoned honestly

[–] roux@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we just throw the whole country away and start over?

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe we could call the process a “communist revolution” or something?

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pointless foreign war going badly? ✔

Worsening internal proletarian conditions? ✔

Popular distrust in government and its fundamental philosophy? ✔

Encroaching police state and murdering of protesters? ✔

I could see the USA going the way of either 1905 or 1932 sometime soon. Obviously I prefer first, but it's the Yankees, they probably will go for the latter. But it's not like this hasn't happened at least once every decade for the past 70 years and no revolution materialised. The true sack of potatoes were the American Tubers all along.

Honestly a general strike might be a cool idea at least for basic things like healthcare, rent control, guaranteed sick leave and other things like that, that basically every other stable country already has. Socialist parties are missing out on the opportunity.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it’s a shame any left movement is crushed so methodically that fascism feels like only a matter of time in the US… :(

[–] huginn@feddit.it 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The hope is they have won the popular vote once in 8 elections and that was only because the entire might of all news outlets was cheering for bombing Iraqis.

[–] TarkovSurvivor@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

God I wish we had a representative democracy. Then we could have fascists in power like Italy.

Aspetta ... forse non c'è mai una democracia perfetta?

Sì, infatti ogni democracia ha I suoi problemi: meglio che uno stato autoritario.

[–] signofzeta@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How about we renegotiate the Civil War? Is it too late to give them the southern states and tell them to leave us alone?

[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it would be far better to finish what reconstruction started.

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I don't go 12 hours without cursing Andrew Johnson's name and the names of all his descendants

[–] huginn@feddit.it 8 points 1 year ago

wHy DiDnT tHeY jUsT lEaVe ThE pOoR wIdDlE sLaVeRs AlOnE!?

Sherman didn't go far enough.

Pence even said like “we need to deal with the problems of Social Security and healthcare” like are you kidding me? Retirement at 65 has god-awful benefits, you basically have to retire at 67-70 to actually get OK benefits that can afford you to barely retire. Healthcare is essentially not a thing here, more specifically AFFORDABLE healthcare that most people desperately need