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I’ve only caught clips of it and I’m not strong enough to watch in full so I ask how any of you felt about it if you watched it.

Portuguese news went over it briefly but I can only understand bits and pieces, from what I’ve gathered the whole thing was a shit show.

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[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 54 points 10 months ago

Mike Pence said “consensus is the opposite of leadership” so, you know, good to see their grasp on reality is as solid as ever

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 10 months ago

”consensus is the opposite of leadership”

What does that mean 😭

[-] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 10 months ago

"Cooperating with others and making compromises is weakling behavior"

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

It means Mother said if he can't force his way in a room full of his peers, then he's weak

[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago

It means authoritarianism equals leadership to them

[-] Hagels_Bagels@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 10 months ago

Lots of freedom and democracy there...

[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Mike Pence jacks off nightly to a picture of Dick Cheney (he would have sex with his wife but it wouldn’t have been for conception, and therefore it would be a sin lol)

[-] judgeholden@hexbear.net 49 points 10 months ago

they’re fucking nuts. one of them said “climate change isn’t real, we need to keep extracting as many fossil fuels as possible”, they all talked about how we need to break up teacher’s unions, how we need to abolish the Department of Education, how we need to spend billions on our border like Israel, etc.

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 10 months ago

The amount of cheers was unsettling.

[-] judgeholden@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

there’s no hope for this country, it should just be abandoned honestly

[-] roux@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 10 months ago

Can we just throw the whole country away and start over?

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 10 months ago

Maybe we could call the process a “communist revolution” or something?

[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 10 months ago

Pointless foreign war going badly? ✔

Worsening internal proletarian conditions? ✔

Popular distrust in government and its fundamental philosophy? ✔

Encroaching police state and murdering of protesters? ✔

I could see the USA going the way of either 1905 or 1932 sometime soon. Obviously I prefer first, but it's the Yankees, they probably will go for the latter. But it's not like this hasn't happened at least once every decade for the past 70 years and no revolution materialised. The true sack of potatoes were the American Tubers all along.

Honestly a general strike might be a cool idea at least for basic things like healthcare, rent control, guaranteed sick leave and other things like that, that basically every other stable country already has. Socialist parties are missing out on the opportunity.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it’s a shame any left movement is crushed so methodically that fascism feels like only a matter of time in the US… :(

[-] huginn@feddit.it 13 points 10 months ago

The hope is they have won the popular vote once in 8 elections and that was only because the entire might of all news outlets was cheering for bombing Iraqis.

[-] TarkovSurvivor@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago

What an amazing democracy.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 10 months ago

God I wish we had a representative democracy. Then we could have fascists in power like Italy.

Aspetta ... forse non c'è mai una democracia perfetta?

Sì, infatti ogni democracia ha I suoi problemi: meglio che uno stato autoritario.

[-] signofzeta@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago

How about we renegotiate the Civil War? Is it too late to give them the southern states and tell them to leave us alone?

[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago

it would be far better to finish what reconstruction started.

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

I don't go 12 hours without cursing Andrew Johnson's name and the names of all his descendants

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago
[-] huginn@feddit.it 8 points 10 months ago

wHy DiDnT tHeY jUsT lEaVe ThE pOoR wIdDlE sLaVeRs AlOnE!?

Sherman didn't go far enough.

[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago

Pence even said like “we need to deal with the problems of Social Security and healthcare” like are you kidding me? Retirement at 65 has god-awful benefits, you basically have to retire at 67-70 to actually get OK benefits that can afford you to barely retire. Healthcare is essentially not a thing here, more specifically AFFORDABLE healthcare that most people desperately need

[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 10 months ago

Mike Pence is a hilarious candidate. Less than 3 years ago, there were Republicans storming DC looking for Mike Pence to hang him, now he thinks he has a shot at POTUS. Vivek is really trying to separate himself from the herd more than anything and it didn’t work in his favor at times. DeSantis was struggling the whole time. The question asking if they’d support Trump was so funny. They said raise your hand if you WOULD support Trump if he got the nomination and everyone but 2 people raised their hand. And besides Vivek who raised his hand quickly and kept it up, everyone else sorta did it after seeing other candidates do it, they were pretty reluctant to do so and I thought it was funny how they still have to bend the knee to a mf who has a fuckin Mugshot🤣

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

Vivek had the most uncomfortable, canned open mike comedian introduction speech out of all of them AND the nerve to break the fourth wall by calling out how everyone has a rehearsed introduction.

He's a bigger weasel than pete-eat and I love it

[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago

And he got called out by Christie for stealing Obama’s “I’m a tall skinny guy with a weird last name” bit lmfaooo

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 10 months ago

Vivek

Now this is just an insult to the Sixth House and the tribe unmourned

[-] MILFCortana@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Afaik they all signed a document to be in this debated saying they'd support whoever won

[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Lol I didn’t know that, kinda a repetitive question then

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago

I watched hasans coverage and oh boy 😂

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Oh man I totally forgot about Hasan Lmao I’ll have to seek out his coverage as I imagine it’s way more palatable

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

It's pretty funny that he consumes sooo much american media that he unironically could roleplay a better conservative than the actual conservatives at the debate 😂

[-] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Portuguese? Aren't you a Cold Yank?

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago

I’m both lol born and raised in Canada but my family are Portuguese immigrants! I live together with two family members who watch Portuguese tv so the only English news I get is on Twitter, TikTok, and on here.

[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Puts into perspective all the (justified) ripping on libs we do here.

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