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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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Translation:

My personal opinion, for those who are interested, is that these two instances (Hexbear and Lemmygrad) are filled with what we call here nazbols, tankies, or even left-wing fascists.

They are primarily authoritarians who like to call themselves leftist, but use the same tools, have the same political vision, the same organization, and politically and historically tend to ally with “official” fascists as soon as a truly revolutionary leftist movement emerges.

I found it tolerable to “do nothing” as long as they stayed in their corners, but I had somewhat forgotten that an authoritarian remains an authoritarian and that the only place they deserve is down a well, not forgetting to strike the hands that try to escape with a big stick.

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[–] anansi@hexbear.net 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Finally, the idea that it is the Communists siding with fascists, and not the liberals and Social Democrats siding with the facsists against the Communists, is entirely absurd and historically revisionist. From the SPD siding against the KPD and with the NSDAP, to any major historical current, Communists have sided against the fascists.

I think that you're ignoring once again on purpose that my critic is not against communists, but against people like you, tankies, that are as communist as the nazis were socialist.

You tankies allied with the Nazis when you had an interest in doing so, saying the contrary is the actual revisionism. Ever heard of Ribbentrop-Molotov ?

You also indirectly sided with Franco in Spain by only sending resources to sabotage revolutionary efforts by the anarchist because it was a threat to the communist illusion that you made. That's also why you purged actual communists, anarchists and other -ist whenever you could. Saying the contrary is also revisionism.

Anansi, read Blackshirts and Reds. You fundamentally have no idea what Communism and Fascism are, who the Communists and Fascists serve, and their adversarial relationship. This clouds your entire worldview.

No, I do, and I think you realize that's the problem.

You just are not communists, you're cosplaying.

I found it tolerable to “do nothing” as long as they stayed in their corners, but I had somewhat forgotten that an authoritarian remains an authoritarian and that the only place they deserve is down a well, not forgetting to strike the hands that try to escape with a big stick.

Ending it with a call to violence against Communists, a time-honored tradition amongst fascists. In context, Anansi was projecting their own tendencies towards authoritarianism and fascism on the antifascist Communists. Shocker!

You'll find the explanation on this in the other comments, which you will chose to ignore or not believe because once again that shows your illiteracy and/or double standards.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You tankies allied with the Nazis when you had an interest in doing so, saying the contrary is the actual revisionism.

… wait for it …

Ever heard of Ribbentrop-Molotov ?

lenin facepalm

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Come on liberal, say the line! say the line

Ever heard of molotov-ribbentrop?

whataboutism

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

i love it because libs think its some sort of "gotcha".

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

For those who know nothing and believe they know everything it probably feels that way.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think that you're ignoring once again on purpose that my critic is not against communists, but against people like you, tankies, that are as communist as the nazis were socialist.

Yes, I'm ignoring it because you haven't demonstrated that there's a difference.

You tankies allied with the Nazis when you had an interest in doing so, saying the contrary is the actual revisionism. Ever heard of Ribbentrop-Molotov ?

Yep, fully aware that the Soviets bided their time while trying to get the Western Powers to form an alliance against the rising Nazi threat.

You also indirectly sided with Franco in Spain by only sending resources to sabotage revolutionary efforts by the anarchist because it was a threat to the communist illusion that you made. That's also why you purged actual communists, anarchists and other -ist whenever you could. Saying the contrary is also revisionism.

The Soviets supplied the Anarchists, and you say that helped Franco? Lmao. You're deeply unserious.

No, I do, and I think you realize that's the problem. You just are not communists, you're cosplaying.

Read the book, Anansi. You haven't made any points on us not being Communists and refuse to read literature disproving you.

You'll find the explanation on this in the other comments, which you will chose to ignore or not believe because once again that shows your illiteracy and/or double standards.

I've read your justification, it's more like obfuscation.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep, fully aware that the Soviets bided their time while trying to get the Western Powers to form an alliance against the rising Nazi threat.

This part is so consistently annoying. "dae M-R pact?" Sure, buddy. *BUT WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT? WHAT HAPPENED IN THE DECADE BEFORE THAT? WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES LEAD TO A SITUATION WHERE THE M-R PACT MADE SENSE AND WAS NECESSARY?

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Events are static and devoid of context, duh