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[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Massachusetts is also 4th in the country for states with the most people leaving to live elsewhere.

No doubt due to cost of living because Massachusetts is ridiculously expensive. The friends I have there are either leaving or totally resigned to not owning a house or ever retiring. Comparing a historically important coastal population center to a historically poor and strategically insignificant flyover state doesn't prove much.

The states with highest domestic emigration (e.g. people voting with their feet to leave) are overwhelmingly left leaning. (Except for Louisiana and Ohio)

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

So progressive places make a place so desirable to live in that people are willing to compete with each other for the experience.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

"Why are blue states always so expensive?!". It's supply and demand. High demand to live someplace makes it expensive.

My million dollar house is worth as much as it is because of its located near high paying jobs, good school, and good neighbors. It's expensive to live where I live because lots of people want to live here.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, but it's supply and demand. I bet your million dollar home isn't next to an apartment building. Cities would be much cheaper if it weren't for NIMBYs who already own homes insisting that their homes must appreciate in value at all times.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml -2 points 7 hours ago

There's higher demand to live in Florida and Texas. Look at the domestic immigration numbers. People are leaving CA, NY, IL and MA in droves.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml -5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

How is people leaving almost exclusively "progressive" places an indicator of competition?

Look at the inverse of that chart. Most people in the country are moving to places like Florida, Texas and Idaho.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

Because shitty makes for cheap.

How is this confusing?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

As an Ohioan that tracks. We’d long been the poor person’s progressive state but yeah I’m ditching to go somewhere I’m safe, even though it sucks to leave somewhere affordable

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

strategically insignificant flyover state

Cushing, OK has a bone to pick with this.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming that is a missile silo or something in which case I stand corrected on that front!

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Major petroleum marketplace. The commodity trading floor is in a big city somewhere else. But a lot of the oil actually changes hands in our around Cushing.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Gotcha. FWIW I have no bone to pick with Oklahoma at all. If anything the fact that people criticize it for being a backwater probably means that it's awesome.