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[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Tipping culture is weird and I only ever hear people mention it in the context of hating it. Yet they seem to have the mindset that there are no other options.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 8 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Have you talked to a lot of servers about it? I have a few friends who are servers who hate the idea of cutting out tips and just making minimum wage because they would make significantly less money.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

Crazy thought, really really outside the box lateral thinking type shit, but how about paying them a living wage instead? Seems to work for other industries. I'm not tipping my welder.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 14 points 20 hours ago

Tips were first used as a way for rail lines to avoid having to pay black coach attendants a wage.

It isn't surprising that service workers don't want to abolish tips, since that's primarily how they get paid now - but that doesn't mean we shouldn't abolish them. The owners should have to pay their workers a living wage. By making that the consumer's responsibility, it frees the business owner from the responsibility of paying their workers for their labor.

Tip wages are exploitative, plain and simple.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

For maybe a month or two, but when the restraints are no longer to hold on to good staff at minimum wage, employers will have to start offering more to get people to work for them.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

Yeah -- The goal is not to keep servers, etc. working at minimum wage, it's to eliminate tips in favor of employers paying a livable wage.

I'd rather the menu prices reflect the actual cost of the item, including the service workers' wages, than have to tack on another n% at the end. And, at least back in the before-times for the like, month, I worked as a server, I would've loved to go to work and not worry about "Oh shit, it's the Sunday church crowd" and resign myself to not making any money that shift.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 17 hours ago

I like your optimism.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 4 points 19 hours ago

That's the tipping I like. When I'm getting served. I want to sit at my table and enjoy the whole experience. I want my water refilled, I was to be asked if I want another drink. I want the courses the flow on and off the table. I want to be able to talk about the dishes. Then I want to tip based on how well it all went.

Obligate tipping for counter service is bullshit.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago

As a server, tips for me were huge.

But that's for a role that's a bit more involved than fillings gas or pouring coffee. The waiter's our agent at the restaurant, fighting with (armed!) kitchen staff always on the verge of a breakdown, rejecting shit product and passing along tips for good stuff, etc.

I'm tipping drivers if the toppings aren't slid to one side. I'm tipping my cabbie. I'm tipping my barber as he does a lot with very little.

But I'm not tipping people where there's little interaction or judgement for me specifically. My bus driver, the flight attendant, the pilot, the gate agent, the carny operator, the pet food guy, my grocer, my pharmacist. No weasel no grease.

And if it's forced it'll be the last. That's it. I'm still boycotting restaurants because they couldn't abide by the regional health officers instructions on masking. I can do this.

Having said that, minimum wage is the minimum. Enough of this bullshit where tipped staff makes less base pay.