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Summary

Anti-Trump Americans, especially on the left, are showing a more subdued response to Trump’s 2024 reelection compared to the activism of 2016.

Exhaustion, disillusionment with repeated setbacks, and negative media coverage have led many to disengage from politics or shift focus to personal priorities.

Activist groups, like Women’s March, are planning protests but acknowledge lower enthusiasm and more localized efforts.

Experts suggest this “tune-out” may be a coping mechanism, with some hoping new, non-political participants will lead change.

Many feel drained but believe activism will eventually regain momentum.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 66 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The older I get and the more things I witness like Citizens United happen, the more economically rightward both parties become, the more ruthless the Republicans become to be rewarded by The Base, the more feckless the opposition becomes. The more we vote and Democrats do nothing, or just enough Republicans win to stop them. We vote and the people we vote for suddenly go "oops I was actually a consevative the whole time!" The more time passes the more I realize organized violence or riots are really are more than likely the only things that will actually change anything. The older I get though the more I realize that will never happen.

We're all far too "civil" and hope voting for the oligarch lite will save us. We're far too propagandized and are denied the only real changes we need to how we vote to stop this trend. We will have to be pushed until it's really really really bad for anyone to actually organize a revolt. By then it will be far too late.

Apathy helps the oppressor, but engagement hasn't shown to have much of a positive affect either. :/

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Well pass on that knowledge then cause I'm just getting starting. We got a world to save and not a whole lot of time to save it. Do whatever you can to put rockets on the elbows of those who are oppressed and misrepresented. The time to realize the monopoly on violence, and why that is was yesterday. It is now time to disobey.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I figured this out in The Tombs in Brooklyn 20 years ago. I was the only white guy and hearing these kids talk about conspiracy theories even back then.. 9/11.. David Icke... Aliens.. etc.. I knew then "if stones get thrown, it'll be from the streets, the hungry, not the over educated upper middle class suburban whites." And also not at all surprised when people of color went hard right last couple elections bc they haven't trusted the govt ... ever..

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Funny enough the conspiracy theories were how I even got interested in politics to begin with! I always had a special hatred for Bush, but after being exposed to the 9/11 conspiracies I fell down a rabbit hole, crossed paths with Infowars for a bit, and finally dug myself back out to "reality" taking a brief tour of "maybe the Democrats actually give a shit about people."

...yeah. We don't actually have a party for the working people. Things are going to have to get rough for things to change :(

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

School report on the Ross Perot election and then reading Rage Against the Machine liner note lyrics (and going to the library to research every historical reference). By the time I was in high school in Manhattan with proximity to activism, I was grabbing the bullhorn at the protests.

Yeah... That was the 99% movement. Leftist and tea party.. unity? (Anger at being fucked by banks) Have you read The Great Derangement? Check out the synopsis. Might be up your alley.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh- getting beat up by NYPD at age 12 prob didn't help

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why do you believe organised violence/riots help? Not that I have good ideas, but I am pretty sure that violence will further cement Trump/GOP rule.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think if anything the riots/strikes would be better than actual violence. Basically any direct sustained threat to their incomes will force some kind of change.. anything short of that and these people will just continue to buy elections and buy the people who run. Threats to life might make things worse, but I think the "ownership class" need to be reminded that they can only fuck around so far until they "find out." The only meaningful changes in society in relation to the owning classes came from violence.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 2 weeks ago

I fully understand the anger and frustration that leads people to dreaming of and secretly prepping for violent insurrections, but I will absolutely urge them to redirect the energy into something that can actually make a change.

Historically, violent insurrections against the owning class have always been put down by the police or army and not resulting in changes.

The latest meaningful changes which happened in Europe in the late 1800s happened due to workers uniting, striking and supporting each other internationally.

This is rarely taught in schools for some reason, and it's beginning to be a bit of an issue, since many people today have no clue about the foundation for their current life/working situation.

Even if there was a violent insurrection.. then what? What are the demands? What is the desired outcome? If people can organize to figure that out, they might as well put it into a strike demand.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's reality. When civil disobedience doesn't work people don't stop, they just stop being civil.