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No actually fuck all misogynists and that includes incels (hexbear.net)
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Yeah no, fuck that shit. Not going to be lectured about how we should handle woman haters with kid gloves because they can't handle rejection.

Like holy shit apparently getting rejected is only hard for cis men and it's really fucking important. Guess what, it sucks for women just as much. Women get rejected too, but no one cares. Hell, no one even believes it because that sexism runs deep. Wait, actually no it sucks more for women because dating isn't just putting your pride on the line, it's risking assault and verbal abuse everytime too. Oh but on top of that they get to hear from incels (and the media) about how easy it is for women to date. But again, no one gives a shit, because they're women, so who cares.

Meanwhile everywhere you look the media is discussing "Oh these poor frustrated young men. What a crisis. Oh those mean feminists! What do we do?" Because shit that's just silently accepted as normal for everyone else to go through is apparently a crisis if it happens to a cis dude.

I'm not going to accommodate a scratched misogynist any more than I would a scratched liberal.

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[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 79 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I have one good thing to say about the incel communities. When I was at my most lonely and a virgin, I would often read through the /r/incel subreddit and think "Wow at least I'm not as sad as these losers."

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

My harrowing close experience with inceldom:

  • Heard about "incel communities," where "incel" was short for "involuntary celibate"
  • "Hey that sounds like me. It'd be nice to have a community where such people can support each other without assholes virgin shaming us. I should check them out."
  • Find an incel forum
  • Start reading posts to see if it's a good fit for me
  • Dawning horror
  • Jettison any notions of identifying as "incel" so fast they achieve escape velocity
[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Had the same thing happen with "men going their own way" shit. Got cheated on. Got depressed. Didn't want to date or have sex. Saw the title. Hey I'm a man. I kinda want to go my own way. Let's see what this is about. Working out for strength and endurance instead of vanity? Celebrating our silly man bodies? Something positive?

Read the content. Ran away as hard as I could.

[–] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

the whole premise of men "going their own way" (i.e. cut off women entirely) after they have a negative experience with one is blatantly misogynistic in and of itself

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

It's like a cult, they never want to actually improve or help each other, they just want to be angry and sad, and blame it all on women and minorities. There used to be some subreddits which actually was for men to talk about their lifes and frustations and people would actually give good advice instead of incel shit.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

where such people can support each other without assholes virgin shaming us

The funny part is that even that much isn't true. They constantly ritually shame each other for being virgins and supposedly subhuman. You're way better off talking to normal people if you don't want to be abused for your virginity.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

It was funny because I remember reading that shit and incels would make a good point about how modern dating norms suck, then they'd take a wild turn to blaming it on women. I was glad that I had already done enough introspection at that point in my life to know that kind of stuff was bullshit.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Funnily enough that's actually how the whole subculture started. A sweet and well-intentioned college student started an email chain for her and others in the same situation as her. She stopped checking in on it after some years and then... Here we are.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

You had me in the first half lol.