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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE7n0rwjwD4

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Oops. I forgot to mention this stuff.

It's an MSNBC vid

After convincing President Biden to pardon his son Hunter, South Carolina Rep. Jim Clyburn is now calling for clemency for Donald Trump. "If we keep digging at things in the past, I'm not too sure the country will not lose its way," Clyburn tells MSNBC's Jonathan Capehart.

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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Jim Clyburn is now calling for clemency for Donald Trump.

He is about to become president, why would he need clemency now?

[–] x87_floatingpoint@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Can Trump pardon himself once he becomes president? (Honest question, IDK how the details of anglo-burn politics work)

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago

Can Trump pardon himself...

Years ago - a "self pardon" was only a theoretical question that a law professor could answer with smirk if not a laugh. But now with a toxic, fundie, reactionary GOP 6-3 majority on the supreme court willing to do whatever to help Trump - the answer is surely "probably" if not a straight up "yes".

[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As far as anyone knows, it's an Air Bud rule situation

I'd fully expect it to go to the Supreme Court and be ruled constitutional 5-4 with Roberts dissenting to "preserve his legacy" or whatever knowing full well Thomas+Alito+Gorsuch+Kavanaugh+Conehead are 100% rubber stamping a "the president(R) can do whatever" decision

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Apparently Nixon thought about it was advised not to

[–] fox@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Don't you need to be personally harmed to bring a suit? Who's personally harmed by Trump writing himself a pardon? The prosecutor's ego?

It is of course a stupid and useless action since clearly being a crime guy didn't stop him from assuming the presidency, and pardoning himself will just get the hogs baying in approval, so idk

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

It would be litigated when/if a prosecutor tried to bring charges against Trump for conduct that was self-pardoned

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

No one actually knows, no president ever tried

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

So the US can go back to being a City on a Hill and a light to world, American exceptionalism can be reaffirmed, American civil religion can be worshiped again, and blah-blah-blah-fucking-blah.