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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh I think if it was him, the gun is 100% planted still. But I find it somewhat as likely that it wasn't him, because why would an assassin who took as many precautions as they did, only travel 1 state away?

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The tune changed from 'this guy may have been a pro' to 'guy they found at an icky dees with all the evidence needed to arrest on him one state over almost a full week later'. Also I default to not trusting the cops and feds when there's any doubt at all as to the guilt of someone arrested as well as the fact that I really hope the real killer is still out there. Best twist would be Luigi is intentionally taking the heat. If that's the case I will lionize.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol, it's in his blood to not collaborate with the cops. A real Italian hero tony-cheer

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

It becomes like then end of Joker but everyone is wearing the Chad Meme face as a mask

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

The narrative that he might have been planning to do another hit is also odd. Even if he did, why would he stash his stuff in his car instead of some hideout?

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because he was likely not in a stable mental state and didn't plan beyond getting out of the city.

Yes cops plant evidence, yes we shouldn't take them at their word, but if we're gonna criticize the surveillance state for only doing it's job to protect capital, shouldn't we also accept that it can do it's job very well in these situations?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You're missing my point entirely. I believe that if this really was the guy, then that gun must have been planted because the FBI must have used illegal methods to track him down (this is parallel construction, using illegal methods to build a case that can then be laundered via convenient stories like the McD's snitch) and just planted the gun to seal the deal.

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What should be illegal and what is actually illegal under the Patriot Act and Five Eyes are vastly different things.

Just because the methods used to track him infringe on our privacy and rights doesn't mean the weapon was necessarily planted, he could've been planning a second attack or simply wanted to be caught.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hmm, good point, but what if besides inadmissibility there's also just the question of getting the most final evidence possible and avoid relying on data that, say, the NSA may have gathered?

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's the fingerprints on the stuff he may have left behind and the fake IDs he used to book the hostel. I'm not sure on how accurate forensics is for a 3d printed gun.

I think last week as the investigation went on and he was nowhere to be found the general vibe was that he was some sort of criminal mastermind, with possible accomplices supporting him. I think it might have just been dumb luck he evaded capture as long as he did.

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If it's not planted, and this guy really did it, then I don't think this is a matter of the cops doing their job well. If all that is true, then they didn't catch him at all, he turned himself in.