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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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I step out of Hexbear and into another instance for once and immediately get this shit lmao

I was letting off some steam about how sick and tired I am about working a shit job to make some asshole rich, and I made an off hand remark about how my employer probably belongs in a gulag. Further down the reply chain, this lemmitor asshole shows up to send me a whole tirade full of faux concern, breaking out the psychoanalysis to say I'm just an extremist full of unjustified hatred because I must be a bitter loser. Somehow they come up with this nuclear hot take comparing my anger at the capitalist class to a Christian fundamentalist hating gay people.

But the fucking cherry on the top here is sending me this comment as their very first interaction with me and proceeding to instantly block me to deny me the chance to reply at all. I've seen others use the block feature as a means of getting the last word in, but never to get both the first and last word in at the same time. And in the end, this self-unaware lib ends up calling me the overly self righteous one. Perfect.

Tbh, what gets me is that they were so fucking close to getting it. They almost came to an accurate understanding of the fact that my material conditions as a poor person getting fucked over day in and day out by my employer stealing my labor will heavily inform my politics. But of course they never quite reach that point, instead bizarrely veering off into psychologizing me, and acting like this is all just some sort of character flaw on my part.

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[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Point 1. dbzer0 instance claims to be leftist

Point 2. Leftists would not allow posts from ableist neoliberal ghouls to be posted on their instance

Point 3. Ableist neoliberal ghouls post on dbzer0

Point 4. dbzer0 does not remove the posts of ableist neoliberal ghouls

Therefore, synthesizing the points above, dbzer0 is not leftist.


Bonus point: when shown the ableist screed posted on their "leftist" instance, the admin responds not with some kind of apology or good-faith discussion but rather reddit-logo tier debatebro snark.

"UM, RULE 3?" "OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT-" "OKAY, GOOD TO KNOW THAT-" smuglord

Honest question, what do you even get out of this project? What do you think you're accomplishing? What positive effect do you think you can have when you're deploying this dismissive, abrasive tone to anyone trying to engage with you? A problem post has been pointed out on your instance - one among many that form a significant trend - and your ONLY response is to zero in on the person criticizing you to glibly invoke "the rules" to try and shut them up. How about explaining why your instance lets post like this stay? How about reflecting on why people say things like

Really makes you wonder if there are some ideological problems with their particular brand of "leftism" that it is so immensely compatible with open chauvinism like that.

instead of just demanding that they stop saying things like that? At this point, what specifically do you even believe that makes you care about being called "not a real leftist"?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not going to debate the typical uncharitable interpretations you peeps do towards all outsider comments so you can and declare them things like "neoliberal ableist ghouls" and then repeat such statements until it becomes the "truth" . I'm just here to point out the hypocrisy of these rules which are bypassed as easily as saying "ableist neoliberal ghouls".

I am also not here to debate my instance. Obviously we're not hexbear and we are differ in how we see things. But we're not the ones claiming hexbear is "fake leftists" so we can turn people against you. But your community regularly does that towards us every time one of you needs to cry about some argument they had on lemmy. If you don't want me here pointing out your hypocrisy, feel free to either keep our instance out of your toxic mouth, or ban us.

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once again completely ignoring the content of the post from OP in favor of policing procedure and decorum. Pure fucking LIBERALISM mao-wtf

Again, what do you even believe?? If you defend positions that boil down to "you only want a revolution cause you have a bad life and are envious" then what's left of "leftism"? And do you defend the post, either its content or its tone? You haven't said a single thing about it except to complain about how other people are talking about it.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your reading comprehension needs work. I am not tone policing. I'm not complaining about you commenting on that poster. Feel free to dunk as much as you want. I only point out it's hypocritical on your end to label the whole instance as fake leftists.

Y'all are so desperate to be right that you keep trying to assign actions to me that I'm not taking.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Your reading comprehension needs work.

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