I know of a not-insignificant portion of young misogynistic guys who are angry at women their age for dating older guys instead of them. They were around even when I was the age of the guys in this article and that was a while ago. I always felt like that fed into a lot of guys buying into the Alpha Male discourse that come around later. Probably related to incels too, but not sure which came first.

I do not deny that there are lots of men who get mad about women dating other men, for lots of reasons. My issue here is with the unevidenced assertion (we don't have the original article here) that this assault specifically is being driven primarily by that specific specie of brainworms. People like to ascribe every bad thing that happens only to their opponents, and never to flaws in their own house.

Further reasoning but CW for sensitive subjects.

If they wanted to get back at women for dating older men, they would've just assaulted a woman; rather than picking a fight with a male soldier who, even they would imagine, could presumably fight back.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Well, like the other Comrade said, are we really going to split hairs here? Angry men attending a private Catholic college in Massachusetts allegedly involved in the "anti-pedo" fight and totally misdirecting violence and attack an outside guy coming in to have sex with 'one of their own'? That's kinda textbook reactionary shit.

I really don't think some Starbucks radlibs did this.

Also, for the record, radlibs are my opponents too.

(article was linked below, by the way)

[–] Murple_27@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

(article was linked below, by the way)

Fair enough, I had not seen that it had been linked in the thread before I started responding to your post, and after having read the article I can now conclude that this is way more insane than what either of us seem to be arguing for.

Apparently this was a coordinated ambush by at least 30 campus students of mixed company (that is to say both men & women), and they were actually students at a private Roman Catholic college. So while I'll concede that this is probably not a consequence of "Age Gap Discourse", I also don't think you can credibly reduce it to "Angry Young Men Venting Misogyny". This is actually like some kind of insane Youth Q-Anon Brigade.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

"Angry Young Men Venting Misogyny"

insane Youth Q-Anon Brigade.

same-picture

Yeah, I feel you. It is very wild, especially considering that I think there's not much difference at all between an 18 year old and a 22 year old, but maybe I'm just old. I don't know the exact reasons for this or whatever, or if this is actual coordinated group or actually spontaneous, but whatever is going on there are reactionary misogynistic brainworms there, in my opinion. Women can participate in upholding that as well.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

rather than picking a fight with a male soldier who, even they would imagine, could presumably fight back

you can be the most deadly tier 1 operator to ever live, trained in every martial art known to man, and a ball of pure muscle and freakish dense bones with crazy reach

..and still be dropped by a semi-coordinated group of willowy, gangly attackers (with a plan of attack) that combined might only barely hit your weight class

one of the basest reasons that collective strength always trumps individualism

(not trying to directly attack your point, obviously he would make a very dangerous target, just musing since i've seen plenty of street fight videos)

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My pal when he was homeless and a heroin addict, while having fairly decently done a shot ended out getting into a fight with an army guy and kinda assumed he was gonna get his ass beat, he ended out winning pretty handily despite being high as a kite and malnourished as hell

[–] Des@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

lol this is extremely cool and good (fucking up the troop, not shot, although maybe it helped as a sort of terrible cost combat boost!)

also when you have little to lose you can definitely go harder then some overconfident asshole who thinks they are trained to kill by the best

but is really no better then some IDF shitbag.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He was on heroin which is pretty great as a painkiller and thought he was fucked. He went in without any plan of offense and then it turned out the guy was really bad at fighting and missed his doped up ass with a few swings and left himself super open and the advantage was taken and then soldier boy sucked at taking a punch too. He was telling me the story cause it was really funny how easy it was to beat up this soldier (who was also in uniform at a bar and got into a fight with a homeless dope fiend, and then lost) was to beat.

[–] WasteTime@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Tell your pal I say thank you for his service.

[–] Murple_27@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

you can be the most deadly tier 1 operator to ever live, trained in every martial art known to man, and a ball of pure muscle and freakish dense bones with crazy reach

…and still be dropped by a semi-coordinated group of willowy, gangly attackers (with a plan of attack) that combined might only barely hit your weight class

I would contest that this is entirely dependent on what the state of weapons & armaments technology of the day is. It's not as if Knightly Castes have never been an effective paradigm. But either way this dude was jumped by like 30 people, seemingly of both men & women. The personal qualities of whoever is being entrapped is not the most relevant factor in this situation.