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San Francisco’s police union says a city bakery chain has a “bigoted” policy of not serving uniformed cops.

The San Francisco Police Officers Assn. wrote in a social media post last week that Reem’s California “will not serve anyone armed and in uniform” and that includes “members of the U.S. Military.” The union is demanding that the chain “own” its policy.

Reem’s says, however, its policy isn’t against serving armed police officers. It’s against allowing guns inside its businesses.

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[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, we're so damn scary!

  • Sincerely, leftist pacifist
[–] CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you a pacifist? All rights are won through violence.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Because I don't believe that might makes right. I believe that we can be better than our primitive and murderous ancestors and we owe it to each other to at least try.

As for your assertion on the origins of rights, that's absolute bullshit. The vast majority of worker's and other civil rights have been won via peaceful protest.

You've actually got it backwards: TAKING AWAY rights always happens through violence. That's what it's for: enforcing your will on those you are unable or unwilling to convince by civilized means.

[–] jdsquared@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can you actually name which rights we've won via peaceful protests?

[–] Naura@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I will not fight for Starfleet, but I will defend its ideals. Pacifism is not pacivity. It’s the active protection of all living things in the natural universe.

~Hemmer

[–] cnut@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Can you get to your real point? What do you want?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ghandi is the only one that comes to mind. And in Bill Wurtz's "The History of everything, I guess" video he even says "wait, that worked?!?"

That would be the right for the Indian people to self govern.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but since I've never heard of a Jamaican Revolution, so I'm guessing they also won their independence without bloodshed.

LGBTQ rights I feel like have made huge strides without violence. There was the Stonewall riots, of course, but since then most of the rights have been achieved mostly through normalization and exposure through pop culture and stuff like that. Of course, some people are trying to rewind those, but conservatives are like that with all rights that aren't specifically for white men.

[–] aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sincerely, leftist pacifist

Why are you a pacifist? All rights are won through violence.

As for your assertion on the origins of rights, that’s absolute bullshit. The vast majority of worker’s and other civil rights have been won via peaceful protest.

The history of society is the history of class struggle. Those rights were earned through struggle, not through asking nicely.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago

By peaceful protest I didn't mean asking nicely. I meant being loud, getting in the way, generally making life miserable for the oppressors until they give in without sinking to their level.

Non-violent is a much better term for it tbh, should have used that instead.